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Part III
Chakras and the endocrine system
Parallels have often been drawn, by supporters of the existence of chakras, between the positions and functions of the chakras, and of the various organs of the endocrine system.
The crown chakra, Sahasrara is said to be the chakra of consciousness, the master chakra that controls all the others. Its role would be very similar to that of the pituitary gland, which secretes hormones to control the rest of the endocrine system, and also connects to the central nervous system via the hypothalamus. The thalamus is thought to have a key role in the physical basis of consciousness.
The Ajna Chakra, or Third eye, is linked to the pineal gland. Ajna is the chakra of time and awareness and of light. The pineal gland is a light sensitive gland, that produces the hormone melatonin, which regulates the instincts of going to sleep and awakening. It has been conjectured that it also produces trace amounts of the psychedelic chemical dimethyltryptamine.
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(Note: some argue that the pineal and pituitary glands should be exchanged in their relationship to the Crown and Brow chakras, based on the description in Arthur Avalon's book on kundalini called Serpent Power or empirical research.)
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The throat chakra, Vishuddha, is said to be related to communication and growth, growth being a form of expression. This chakra is paralleled to the thyroid, a gland that is also in the throat, and which produces thyroid hormone, responsible for growth and maturation.
The heart/emotions chakra, Anahata, is related to love, equilibrium, and well-being. It is related to the thymus, located in the chest. This organ is part of the immune system, as well as being part of the endocrine system. It produces T cells responsible for fighting off disease, and is adversely affected by stress.
The solar plexus chakra, Manipura, is related to energy, assimilation and digestion, and is said to correspond to the roles played by the pancreas and the outer adrenal glands, the adrenal cortex. These play a valuable role in digestion, the conversion of food matter into energy for the body.
The sacral chakra, Swadhisthana, is located in the groin, and is related to emotion, sexuality and creativity. This chakra is said to correspond to the testes or the ovaries, that produce the various sex hormones involved in the reproductive cycle, which can cause dramatic mood swings.
The base or root chakra, Muladhara, is related to security, survival and also to basic human potentiality. This centre is located in the region between the genitals and the anus. Although no endocrine organ is placed here, it is said to relate to the inner adrenal glands, the adrenal medulla, responsible for the fight and flight response when survival is under threat. In this region is located a muscle that controls ejaculation in the sexual act. A parallel is drawn between the sperm cell and the ovum, where the genetic code lies coiled, and the kundalini.
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Part IV
Various models
Chakrology is a neologism sometimes employed by Alternative Medicine practitioners or esoteric philosophers for the study of chakras. There are many different chakrologies, some of them based on ancient Indian Hindu Tantric esoteric traditions, New Age interpretations, or Western occult analyses, as well as ancient Greek and Christian references.
The tantric chakras
Tantric chakras
Sahasrara
Ajna
Vishuddha
Anahata
Manipura
Swadhisthana
Muladhara
Bindu
Tantra (Shakta or Shaktism) describes eight primary inner chakras:
Sahasrara (Sanskrit: सहस्रार)
Ajna (Sanskrit: आज्ञा)
Vishuddha (Sanskrit: विशुद्ध)
Anahata (Sanskrit: अनाहत)
Manipura (Sanskrit: मिणपूर)
Swadhisthana (Sanskrit: स्वाधिष्ठान)
Muladhara (Sanskrit: मूलाधार)
Bindu (Sanskrit: बिन्दु)
Hesychastic centres of prayer
Hesychasm specifies four centres:
Cerebrofrontal centre: Positioned between the eyebrows (compare with Ajna).
Buccolaryngeal centre.
Pectoral centre: Positioned in the upper and median region of the chest.
Cardiac centre: Positioned near the upper part of the heart (compare with Anahata).
This compares notably with Tibetan Buddhism, in which the sequence of centres is very similar, beginning with the eyebrows and going down to the heart, which symbolizes the highest consciousness. Varying Tibetan systems, however, use different numbers of centres, typically between 3 and 7, as appropriate for the practice in question.
It is alleged by modern mystics that in Hesychasm, the centres of prayer were points of concentration or meditation on the body to be used during the hesychastic prayer. This terminology, however, is not used in Orthodox Christianity and is not and has not been part of hesychastic prayer as practiced within the Orthodox Churches.
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Part V
Scientific basis
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The idea of chakras as understood in Eastern philosophy does not exist
in medical science.
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One day, the Western medicine would re-discover the intricate and very complex system of
refined, nervous plexi which conduct powerful electro-magnetic currents.
Acupuncture, which is medical science, has discovered numbers of those plexi
and treats the illnesses arising out of imbalanced energy flow in the organs nourished
by the flow of energy via the meridians, according to the individual roots and paths it discovered.
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Measuring, for example, skin resistance at certain parts and points, reveal that
the electromagnetic conductivity of those spots is heightened, as opposed to
general areas of a body.
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The more sensitive and advance our tools for measuring subtle changes
in the energy field of human body are developed, the more, we can,
actually measure the change and differences in our body along those,
extra-sensitive areas.
Acupuncture meridians and so called Chakras are real and physical energy zones
which has extra electro-magnetic conductivity; thus, conveying powerful
currents of energy when are utilized properly.
In Eastern thought, the chakras are thought to be levels of consciousness,
and states of the soul, and 'proving' the existence of chakras is asking to 'prove'
the existence of a soul.
(That is not an accurate statement as chakras
are physical and can be detected if the equipment is sensitive enough.)
A mystic deals with these occult concepts on the occult plane, as a model for
their own internal experience, and when talking about 'energy centerers',
they are generally talking about subtle, spiritual forces,
which work on the psyche
and spirit, not about physical, electrical, or magnetic fields.
The primary importance and level of existence of chakras is; therefore,
posited to be
in the psyche and in the spirit.
(see the above)
However, there are those who believe that chakras have a physical manifestation as well.
Although there is no evidence that Indian mystics made this association themselves,
it is noted by many that there is a marked similarity between the positions
and roles described for chakras, and the positions and roles of the glands
in the endocrine system, and also by the positions of the nerve ganglia
(also known as "plexuses") along the spinal column, opening the possibility
that two vastly different systems of conceptualization have been brought
to bear to systemize insights about the same phenomenon.
I state that there is more than enough evidence: the correlations
are precise and no chance can be attributed to such!)
By some, chakras are thought of as having their physical manifestation
in the body as these glands, and their subjective manifestation as the associated
psychological and spiritual experiences.
Indeed, the various hormones secreted by these glands do have a dramatic
effect on human psychology, and an imbalance in one can cause a psychological
or physical imbalance in a person.
(Energy flow is at work)
Whether these changes in body state have a bearing on spiritual matters is a subject
of dissent even among the Indian theorists, and the different systems of
conceptualization, Indian and Western, make only a partial convergence in this case.
Perhaps the most psychologically dramatic and potent secretion of these glands
is the psychedelic drug DMT (which is synthesized
by the Pineal gland, corresponding
to the brow chakra).
At least in the West, some individuals have sought spiritual breakthroughs through
the use of such chemical aids, occasionally referred to as entheogens in this context.
This is a very complicated subject.
In brief,
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it is true that most mystics and High Priests of all civilizations have
utilized an aid of
certain extracts found in nature as in herbs, roots, mushrooms, etc.
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Once, used properly, the natural chemicals released and binding to the certain
parts of the brain, particularly to the areas affecting the vibrations of the Pineal gland,
caused superpower-full amplitudes triggered in the brain, which retransmitted the energy
along the areas of the body which conduct the electromagnetic current well i.e.
via chakras and meridians, as their electro-magnetic properties allow
that by the physical laws.
The State of supernatural powers was chived thus, as the total electro-magnetic
potential of the person has far exceeded the norm.
Look at it this way:
You send a current of electricity to a bulb to light it up via a connected to it battery.
Now, compare that case with you connecting the wire to the generators
that can light up the whole city, let's say.
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A dilemma becomes that if to much power is released to suddenly the wire may burn.
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That is why we need transformer to adjust the currents properly
so that we can handle it.
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The concept of Sephirots in Kabbalah is precisely that.
As the energy of the Universe, I use the Hindu word - Prana (Universal Energy)
floats in Space,
that energy is too intense as is.
It would destroy anything on its way.
It is, therefore, redistributed gradually from top down,
so that all can benefit and not be burned by such.
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Each Sephira of each level of its domain (responsibilities) is endowed with
transforming the Higher Powers, according to its specification
and is responsible for a gradual adjustment and monitoring the currents of energy,
their, associated fields and causes-effects.
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The wisdom of Kabbalah provides answers to, practically, everything!
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As time permits, we would venture into the world of Kabbalah on the introductory level.
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References to Chakras
(See for example: Aldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception, a classic of new-age spirituality.)
Footnotes
^ Douglas Mangum (May 2004). New X-Men #154 (issue summary). uncannyxmen.net. uncannyxmen.net. Retrieved on 8 June 2006.
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Reference material and books
Morgen, Robert (2005). Personal Mastery:
Develop Your True Inner Power by Awakening Your Kundalini, 1st, Windhaven Press. 1411635884.
Sharp, Dr. Michael (2005). Dossier of the Ascension: A Practical Guide to Chakra Activation and Kundalini Awakening, 1st, Avatar Publications. 0973537930.
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See also
Acupuncture
Aura
Estoteric anatomy
IRECA method
Kirlian photography
Kundalini
Lataif-e-sitta
Middle Pillar Exercise
Petal (chakra)
Qi
Qigong
Reiki Tummo
Tree of life (Kabbalah)
Yoga
Meditation
Tantric Buddhism
Sefirot
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by Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov
Daily Meditation for this 2006-07-27.
"Why do we go out to contemplate the sun in the morning?
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Because
it is the sun which best disposes us
to love and help others.
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Without this model of warmth and light,
humans behave in ways
that are selfish and coarse.
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Look at what takes place in the
world:
everywhere we see people trying to take advantage of
others,
to dominate them and crush them.
It isn’t a glorious
picture!
But in the sun we have an image of a being
which is
forever radiant and generous.
Even if we admit the sun
is not an
intelligent and rational being in the usual sense,
our conscious
contact with its warmth and light
can only inspire in us more
brotherly feelings towards others. "
Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov
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Excerpt from “Four Body Fitness : Biofields & Bliss” by Jasmuheen
Many metaphysicians are now convinced that personal
health and happiness requires holistic education that
also stimulates the activation of the seven senses. These
include sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, intuition and
the seventh sense of knowing, that sense that says, “I
know that I know but I’m not sure what it is that I
know but I know that I know it!’ After decades of
personal experimentation I have discovered that the
sixth and seventh senses, and all our senses, can be
refined and fully activated by our lifestyle choice.
I call the full activation of all our senses, four body
fitness as this activation brings physical, emotional,
mental and spiritual health as full activation of our
senses can only occur when we are well tuned on all
levels. Four Body Fitness comes to a persona
automatically when we meditate, pray, program and
apply mind mastery, exercise and treat our body like a
temple, are vegetarian (for sensitivity and health
reasons), plus when we serve selflessly, spend time in
silence in nature, when we tune our emotional body
using mantras and devotional songs. I call these 8 steps,
the Luscious Lifestyles Program – L.L.P.
FOUR BODY FITNESS allows us to have love, health,
wealth, passion and purpose in life and also positive
relationships with family and friends. Regardless of our
religions or cultures, this is something that many desire
to achieve hence the FOUR BODY FITNESS program
is a way of harmonizing the Planetary Biofield.
LOVE of self, love of others and love of the DOW are
required for us to fully tune our emotional body
spectrum in our Biofield. Without these three we
remain incomplete as we fail to activate any higher preencoded
Biofield Programs. Our ability to receive and
transmit love is enhanced by L.L.P.
HEALTH means having physically, emotionally,
mentally and spiritually healthy Biofields. Health also
means having a balanced relationship with ourselves
and others. In 1900 the average western person lived to
be 47 years old. Today it is approximately 76. Once
people hit 40 they enter the zone of heart disease,
cancer, strokes, diabetes, arthritis, osteoporosis and
Alzheimer’s disease. These 7 illnesses will be
responsible for the preventable deaths of more than 2
million North Americans in 2000. A well tuned
Personal Biofield acts as a preventative medicine
measure freeing us from dis-ease.
WEALTH means feeling abundant and fulfilled on all
levels, where we feel that we lack for nothing. True
wealth is the wealth of love, friendship, health, wisdom,
passion and purpose in life. Health and wealth come to
us by the experience of the benefits of L.L.P.
FOUR BODY FITNESS - TUNING OUR PERSONAL
BIOFIELD :
In order to successful tune our Biofields we need to
understand field foundations and how these
foundations are energized.
All fields are constructed by
grids which in this physical universe are empowered
though Earth's sun, which is itself empowered or fed
by, the Central Sun.
Bulgarian Sage Omraam Mikhael
Aivanhov said:
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‘When you are present as the sun rises,
its rays dissolve the harmful fluidic layers that
surround you, and the seeds that God has planted in
your soul begin to germinate.’
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SL: "We accumulate to much of the negative field around us, which becomes
our, ethereal "skin."
Fire, particularly, the Sun rays are able to clear and transform those negative currents into
those that are benevolent to us.
If you, only, knew how important it is to bath in the Sunrise,
you would be "drinking" that light
as most desired drink, feeling rejuvenated and enlightened!"
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Biofield Grids & Four Body Fitness:
Biofield Grids form the basis of all Fields and
consist of light rays and sound waves which carry
beneficial Coded information. Biofields and grids can
only be seen by using the Language of Light which is
the language of the Dimensional Biofield. The
Language of Light is available to all who activate their
6th and 7th senses which we can do by experiencing
L.L.P.
Biofield Grids surround, and are woven through all
life forms.
The human Biofield system has a supporting
foundation of an inner Grid called the Lightbody.
In Dimensional Biofield Science, the energy received
by the Lightbody flows through our sun and is stepped
down in frequency to feed our body's meridians and
chakra system. The level of energy that flows through
these then determines our Four Body Fitness. The less
blockages to the flow the healthier and happier we are.
The voltage we can receive into the Four Body
System is determined by its capacity to receive.
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THE ELRAANIS VOICE Newsletter – TEV – Published by Jasmuheen & the Self Empowerment Academy
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Dimensional Biofield Science all operates via a system
of Bio-feedback looping.
The Lightbody is the antenna for receiving
signals from the Grid Blueprint. These signals come
inter-dimensionally from a myriad of sources.
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Each Lightbody, in each person's Biofield, acts as
a radio and television station, constantly beaming out
into the Social and Global Biofields, affecting each one
by leaving an imprint of our beat.
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The pituitary and pineal glands act as our
transmitters and receivers of energy via the
Dimensional Biofield of our Lightbody.
With more than 6 billion Biofields blasting or just
bleating and breathing, the Global, Cosmological and
Dimensional Biofields are constantly changing.
In Biofield Science the frequency of each field
constantly influences the other, and how much
influence each has depends upon the frequency of each
individual.
All Fields are part of the Dimensional Biofield
Grid and each grid contains a multitude of frequency
patterns. Grid points are where light rays and sound
waves cross.
This is where consciousness tends to be
drawn and coagulate and create a Grid Station. Grid
Stations are seen in Dimensional Biofield Science as
white holes. Successful Biofield Grid tuning requires us
to know enough of all Grid Stations to choose our
sources carefully.
Using Dimensional Biofield Science techniques,
all Biofields can draw new frequencies through their
own foundation Grids, and influence the frequency in
each field.
Each Lightbody Biofield Grid has been preencoded
in its DOS - the Divine Order System that
supports all life in the Grid. Decoding this information
brings true fulfillment in life as the Grid tuner
eventually becomes better informed in the art of
Dimensional Biofield Science.
Biofield Grids operate via energy transmissions
that are governed by Biofield Law.
Dimensional Biofield Grids and their subsequent
transmission signals can be harmonized, or overhauled
and completely retuned, by our application of RECIPE
2000>.
Namaste - Jasmuheen
Details of Recipe 2000> can be downloaded from the new website
www.jasmuheen.com/how.asp#dowrecipe
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Taoism: its approach referencing the Sun, Earth, and us
1.Yang Hsiung
Yang Hsiung (53 B.C. to 18 A.D.) was an exponent of what he called Tai Hsuan (Great Mystery). This philosophy combined classical Taoism with elements of Confucian ethics. He is well known for his doctrine that human nature is a mixture of good and evil. He was also noteworthy in rejecting the notion of immortality. This was significant because at that time a large number of Taoist alchemists and the developing religious cult of Taoism, were deeply immersed in doctrines and practices seeking immortality and an 'elixir of life.'
Yang Hsiung correctly pointed out that this practice was contrary to the Taoist philosophy of indifference to life and death and the acceptance of the natural course of things.
Sounding like Lao Tzu, his classical Taoism emerges in formulations such as:
"The Supremely Profound Principal deeply permeates all species of things but its physical form cannot be seen. It takes nourishment from emptiness and nothingness and derives its life from Nature. It penetrates the past and present and originates the various species. It operates yin and yang and starts the material force in motion. As yin and yang unite, all things are complete on Heaven and on Earth. The sky and sun rotate and the weak and strong interact. They return to their original position and thus the beginning and end are determined. Life and death succeed each other and thus the nature and the destiny are made clear. Looking up, we see the form of the heavens. Looking down, we see the condition of the earth. We examine our nature and understand our destiny. We trace our beginning and see our end. ... Therefore the Profound Principle is the perfection of utility.
"To see and understand is wisdom. To look and love is humanity. To determine and decide is courage. To control things universally and to use them for all is impartiality. To be able to match all things is penetration. To have or not to have the proper circumstance is destiny. The way by which all things emerge from vacuity is the Way. To follow the principles of the world without altering them and to attain one's end is virtue. To attend to life, to be in society, and to love universally is humanity. To follow order and to evaluate what is proper is righteousness. To get hold of the Way, virtue, humanity, and righteousness and put them into application is called the business of life. To make clear the achievement of nature and throw light on all things is called yang. To be hidden, without form, deep and unfathomable, is called yin. Yang knows yang but does not know yin. Yin knows yin but does not know yang. The Profound Principle alone knows both yin and yang, both going and stopping, and both darkness and light."
--Tai Hsuan Ching (Classic of the Supremely Profound Principle) (9)7: 5a-9b
In this we can clearly see the application of Taoist metaphysics to a set of Confucian ethical concerns.
2.Wang Ch'ung
Another important thinker of this era was Wang Ch'ung (27 to 100 A.D.). Like Yang Hsiung he was a Taoist in terms of his metaphysics which he combined with certain Confucian ideas. He was less interested in ethics and more concerned with human institutions, however. His chief contribution was to try and clear the air of atmosphere of superstition which was clouding both Taoism and Confucianism.
He declared that Heaven takes no direct action; that natural events occur spontaneously; that there is no such thing as teleology; that fortune and misfortune come by chance; and that man does not become a ghost at death. In all these beliefs is stood against a prevailing current of superstition and divination.
"When material forces (chi) of Heaven and Earth come together, all things are spontaneously produced, just as when the vital forces (chi) of husband and wife unite, children are naturally born. Among the things thus produced, blood creatures are conscious of hunger and cold. Seeing that the five grains are edible, they obtain and eat them. And seeing that silk and hemp can be worn, they obtain and wear them. Some say that Heaven produces the five grains in order to feed man and produces silk and hemp in order to clothe man. This is to say that Heaven becomes a farmer or a mulberry girl for the sake of man. This is contrary to spontaneity. Therefore their ideas are suspect and should not be followed."
--Lun-heng (Balanced Inquiries) (54)
Talisman of the Sacred Mountain of the North.
3.Huai-Nan Tzu
Huai-Nan Tzu (died 122 B.C.) [born Liu An] was a prince of Huai-Nan and a fervent Taoist. He was not original in his writings but gave Taoism further prominence. He came to a tragic end as he plotted a rebellion, failed and committed suicide.
"Tao covers heaven and supports Earth. It is the extent of the four quarters of the universe and the dimensions of the eight points of firmament. There is no limit to its height , and its depth is unfathomable. It encloses Heaven and Earth and endows things [with their nature] before they have been formed. ... Compressed, it can expand. Hidden, it can be manifest. Weak, it can be strong. Soft, it can be firm. ...
"With it the mountain becomes high and the abyss becomes deep. Because of it, animals run and birds fly. Sun and moon shine and the planets revolve by it. The unicorn emerges and the phoenix soars. ...
"After having been polished and cut, it returns to simplicity. It acts without action and is in accord with the Tao. It does not speak and is identified with virtue. Perfectly without leisure and without pride, it is at home with harmony. The myriad things are all different but each suits its own nature. Its spirit may be set on the tip of an autumn hair, but its greatness combines the entire universe. Its virtue softens Heaven and Earth and harmonizes yin and yang. It regulates the four seasons and harmonizes the five Elements. ..."
Therefore those who understand the Tao return to tranquillity and those who have investigated things ultimately rest with non-action.
--Huai-nan Tzu (1): 1a-2a, 6b
4. Lieh Tzu & Yang Chu
One final chapter in the development of Taoism is the hedonism of Yang Chu (440 to 360 B.C. and the pessimism of Lieh Tzu (5th century B.C.) [there is some debate by scholars whether the texts attributed to these two philosophers were, in fact, written by them or compiled later by followers]. This so called 'Negative' School of Taoism takes the Taoist idea of inaction (that is undertaking to artificial action) and interprets it as complete abandon. Spontaneity was replaced with resignation, and hedonism took the place of selflessness.
The Empty Tao Develops into the World.
Yang Chu
"One hundred years is the limit of a long life. Not one in a thousand ever attains it. Suppose there is one such person. Infancy and feeble old age take almost half of his time. Rest during sleep at night and what is wasted during the waking hours in the daytime take almost half of that. Pain and sickness, sorrow and suffering, death (of relatives) and worry and fear take almost half of the rest. In the ten and some years that is left, I reckon, there is not one moment in which we can be happy, at ease without worry. This being the case, what is life for? What pleasure is there?"
Lieh Tzu
"Those who maintain that heaven and earth are destructible are wrong and those who maintain that they are indestructible are also wrong. Whether they are destructible or indestructible, I do not know. However, it is the same in one case and also the same in the other. The living do not know the dead and the dead do not know the living. What is gone does not know what is to come and what is to come does not know what is gone. Why should I be concerned whether they are destructible or indestructible?"
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