How To Predict Your Future?

[Sharing Lights]

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HenryBowman:

Ahhhh. So quoting the scripture is dirty tactics. At least you have come out of the darkness and shed light on that for me. Thank you.

See that lie exposed in the previous Post.

You turned the discusiion of how the Sun can benefit humans into holly Father/Son discussion.
You did. All can see that.




Philippians 2:5
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"


What do you have to do with Christ?


1 Corinthians 2:16
"For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ."

I hide behind my Shield and Buckler.


You hide behind lies and deceit because you try to convince readers of what I didn't write.

You may think of me what you will,

Only based on what you wrote, yourself.

but the scripture I quoted sure raised your dander, didn't it?

You failing logic again.
You assume.
The answer is - you are wrong again.
Why do you keep hiding behind scriptures?

I reply to you - not scriptures, do you comprehend that?
You lie, not scriptures.

You manipulate them as some judges manipulate law.



Likewise, I am cautious of those who propose that the intellect within them is what can provide answers.

1) Be at peace, it is not providing in your case.

2) You misrepresent me again i.e. as I wrote before - you lie.

3) How long would you continue to lie on what I didn't write?

4) Quote the "intellect part" as you referred to - I am patiently waiting.





I care not in the least about "spirituality,"
nor, am I commanded to.

So I noticed.
You were not "commanded," why are you using deceit again?






Did I write that you did? Please show me where I accused you directly of this.



Here it is, if your memory is failing you:

HenryBowman on Yesterday, 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharing Lights


You cannot have two "masters."




How True. One cannot submit to the "sun" and "The Son" at the same time.

Who told you that we must submit to the Sun?
I did?
I wrote interact with it, absorp the healing frequencies of it and began sharing how to do that and how/why that works?

What you write as "How True" is how you use deceit.


1 John 2:22
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is Antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

Paranoia deepens.
Now, I am being accused of denying Father and the Son, as why write (copy/pasted) that in the first place?

Then, later, the Satan hunter, would deny accusing me of that and would inocently write, "quote me."


I am confused now: am I the revealed Satan or Antichrist now?
Which one so that I can sign properly?

It has been previously established, by your words, who the liar is.

Yes, I did establish that by allowing all to see what you wrote, true.

You stated, and I quote:




You are mistaken, or please show me where this reference is.


YHVH's creation provided the light upon the earth.

Thank you, ....finally you found something.
Through what did that light come?

The Sun. maybe?

You keep denying the object that shone and would shine upon the Earth and all people.


You can interact througj ligt to father/mother and all.
You read Bible and, still, fail its main message.

The light is the medium not kust saying the words "Father."


Light is crystaliized Word.
In our dimentsion light comes from the Sun.

Through the Sun, then, we can move to the higher realms of light.

There is spiritual and physical light.


As humans are physical and more subtle energies at the same time, without interacting with the physical light, one cannot encompass the more subtle and refined propertis of light.

Both sides must be matced equally and not one if completenss is desired.

One side would remain 50% only.
the first side is the physical light of the Sun.

Not you not anybody only the Sun provided that to us.
Yes, the Sun ws created by the Higger Energies of the Universe.

I never advocated that it came on its own out of the blue.

Yet, we depend now on the Sun as the life sustainor and te evolving force, whiel the Sun depends on the Forces that norture it.

As you, defenders of your version of God (and I state he doesn'ty need your defense) could not read that basic explanation in the verses you qoute, you became "stuck" on verses and letters.


I use mind, research, meditaion and contemplkation and I do not get stuck but move forward as do no rely only on verses and letters.

That is the key difference.

Which way is better, not for me to say.

I can openly say that,

no way, I would trade the vastness avaialbe to me via such comlpete aprpaoch with one, dogmatic approach.

When would you wake up already from your dogmas?

Why are you figting any refernce to light and freedom from dogmas as only quote verses out of context?



You are alseep and want others to be such.

You hide in verses - instead of seeing and learning from the alive Nature!

Psalm 136

1 O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
2 O give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy endureth for ever.
3 O give thanks to the Lord of lords: for his mercy endureth for ever.
4 To him who alone doeth great wonders: for his mercy endureth for ever.
5 To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy endureth for ever.
6 To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.
7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:
8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:
9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.


There we go again, can't use your, own mind on the subject so quote and quote...


If you think what I have posted is futile, that is your prerogative.

For God's sake, just give us all the link to all the Psalms so that we can save you time copy/pasting.
That must be tiring.

I believe quoting is proper when one understands what quotes - not otherwise.

Please save the comment - "I command."

I do not - I, only, share my opinion.








You, on the other hand, do not scare me.

I guess I am a friendly and cute revealed Satan or Antichrist, who else?


But thank you for revealing that there is true power in the Word.

You are welcomed!
Oh. yeah, your words are such power!


Let me preserve the accuracy - copy/paste is such power and that takes so much mental efforts,
praise the copier.

[Sharing Lights]

SL: Please represent yourself as that would be more suitable by all rules of fair conduct.

HenryBowman: re-presentation or representation is voodoo. I do not acquiesce or yeild to voodoo.

I admit I replied believing that I dealt with a person who may be using unfair ways but can see logic when tries.


I have a feeling, now, that you are, practically, in paranoia.

McCarthy saw Communists all over - you see Satan, Antichrist, undermine-rs of Scriptures, of God and his Son.


I wrote a simple phrase which you took out of context in your consistent pattern of deceit where I asked you to adhere to BASIC rules of logic and to speak for yourself not to hide behind Scriptures as you do.

You know that, all can read that.

The meaning was precise and clear.

Now you see voodoo in that because I did use the phrase "represent yourself" in the clear meaning that you
attempted to speak/write on behalf of Jesus and some Apostles.

The meaning was:


do not represent them, you pervert their teachings and misrepresent them.

Now, you play that you didn't understand that.

I told you you cling to verses, words, commas, your spirit is not in the substance, it is in the letter.


If you wanted me to repeat that, I obliged you.

I believe in kindness and patience
but as you manipulate and are well aware of what do,
I would be relentless with you,
as you are relentless in your use of deceit.



Let all see if that can work and how to oppose that
by precise quotations of the deceiver and logic.

On top of it, you deny what you do.


If that's what you wanted, such exposure, you got it.

Speaking in the name of God by your ways, you turn people away from God.
You do not attract them.
Let them read and ask them if you do not believe me.






You may thing that most readers would see you as a crusader and defender of God or who knows what?

You are more than entitled to such belief.
The word "represent yourself" freaks you out, OK, OK.

I rephrase myself before you turn to voodoo/zombies on manipulating a simple idea into self-representation.

"Be yourself and may your mind produce thoughts and not your hand copy/paste what you do not understand.

Did this save you from voodoo?

Signing,

Revealed Satan or Antichrist.

Sorry, I am, still, confused which label you implied should be attached to me?

HenryBowman: See my recent thread. Very interesting that you would ask me to represent myself after I had posted this thread.

Another outburst, as it appearers, of paranoia.
I have not read your thread.
I had no time as was too busy rebutting your deceit.
You imagine too much.

Originally Posted by Sharing Lights

hunter for Satan

Matthew 10:

24The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
26Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.


As I said, you do not scare me.



Please post more often. This has been a productive thread, wouldn't you agree?




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[Sharing Lights]

Part I

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Originally Posted by HenryBowman

Matthew 10:

24The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
26Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

1) I believe you read reasonably well.

It is beyond any doubt, that

2) I, reasonably, requested of you
to use a protocol of a reasonable and intelligent debate

that such people can use,
when they have something to say/write by substance.

3) In order to avoid any confusion,
I have specifically, spelled out,
based on common sense
that, a reasonable and intelligent debate

i.e. basic logic and common sense

involve more than active copy/paste activity.

Your percentage of copying/pasting vs. own writing, can outperform such efficient copy centers as Staples and Kinkos.


4) That is, even more, relevant

when parts of religious writings are copied by the people who not only do not "represent" the truly noble authors of the original writings but pervert them.

If the word "represent" bothers you,
change it in your mind with what doesn't bother you
as long as the original meaning is intact.

I believe my thought is simple enough as well before I get a lengthy tirade back on that.

5) I, even, fairly posted the actual quotations of your, relevant posts next to what you either accused me of or falsely stated I said or wrote.

6)

Any one who could read, could, clearly see that what I wrote and what you claimed I wrote did not match.

7) As the above was done by you consistently and, I, equally, consistently, asked you, to use honest and fair means of communications, there is can be no "bona fide" error on your part.

8) I do not jump to conclusion prematurely before re-reading both sides.

I have enough posts and misrepresentations and selectively chosen fallacies coming from you to see that such are you ways when you can not debate without lies and deceit.


9) Even though, I could see the above, reasonably, early, I felt obligated to address the tactics as:

a) I have a right to oppose lies and deceit vs. anyone against whom they are used.

b) I showed all readers (who care to see the facts on their own by simply reading and discerning)
how lies and deceit are used and how they can be revealed by evidence.

Our experience may help them to be better prepared for what they may encounter in Courts as, there, lies and deceit, fly in formations.

c) I, also, via your courtesy, may have helped to illustrate how religious dogmas are forced and manipulated by the people of the compatible agendas.

10) I have a very clear separation between such hypocrisy and manipulations that the above has exhibited persistent during the history of humanity and the true and truly, spiritual religion which is the highest form of human expression in my opinion.

11)

The latter is never based on deceit, lies and robotic copy/paste.

It is based on deep, personal understanding
and ability to express anything based on virtues, morals, and true faith, being unveiled harmoniously and by substance.

May all readers discerning their own what you have unveiled and so consistently.


I trust their, such ability, as I have done my part more than enough and the rest is, redundant.


12) Therefore your tactics did provide some value to many,
as, I am sure, many of us, have to witness
such outbursts as you provided
under the veil of defending God
or law or a personal opinion posed as, almost, life itself.


This is a common every day reality and those of us who face it;
and we have to be able to deal with it directly.


I did try in good faith to have a debate to be available to all as I cherish freedom of choice, even though all could read that the began thread has nothing to do with your religious dogmas as it has been called,

"how to predict your future."

You responded in bad faith, as lies and deceit are such.

On top of that you were hiding behind true faith.

Mutually exclusive acts imply what they imply.

13) My life experience tells me that you failed to,
remain on the original subject of the Thread, not so much on purpose,

(I am trying to be fair at all times to all even when the person is not fair to me,)

but, you held a personal grudge against me for addressing your fallacies earlier in another post.

As why else would you switch the original thread to another one in the same thread?

Another contradiction.

As soon as an opportunity presented itself, you acted up on it.

14) My thread or a name of it, would have not made any difference to you,
as your Ego demanded the combat
to show the World
"how dare I question or oppose you?"

The more lies are thrown vs. me the better and deeper I would respond.

This way, the same, dirty tactics would not be used against others as honest means are adequate to debate anything and I state so fully!

Ii never bluff.

15) Yes, I repeat, it is scary, not personally, no matter how much you try to twist my message, but,

it is scary and sad "how and what" has been done in the name of God.

Can you , imagine, readers, when the "defenders of God" gain certain controls and means to implement them?

Look at the lessons of history...

16) How many infidels and those who simply dared to disagree with them were imprisoned, tortured, and burned?

17) The name of the religion didn't matter, as

they all used the same tactics.

18) Religious fanaticism, as any, fanaticism, can only lead to the same conduct.

[Sharing Lights]

Part II


To sum things up,

I repeat,

the true religion and its flows/trends, regardless of the name and differences in superficial layers,
all contained the same, beautiful, Universal ideas and Principles: the virtues and the basic, Ten Commandments.

Truth and morals are Universal.

Lies and deceit has nothing to do with them!

Jesus Christ and many descent people opposed that and died for it and not for not paying taxes.

Sincere and descent Muslims and Jews are not that different from each other as well as Protestants and a Catholics, etc.

Even atheists and deeply religious individuals may act very similarly, equally, decently, when simply use honest and fair ways.

It is the act not the letter of it that determines the Effect, former being the Cause.

HenryBowman:
As I said, you do not scare me.

a) I am happy, as that was never been my intent
with you or with anyone for that matter.

If you perceive my rebut to your deceit and lies as trying to "scare you,"
you read but don't see,
you "heard screams"
reading calm writings based on facts and precision.



I do believe that you are paranoid about something.

I never intimidate or prevent any answer -
I only ask not to lie and use deceit,
when the latter attempts to re-write what was written.

b) Is that not a basic, inherited right for all?


I call things as they are:

lies and deceit are disgusting, cheap,
and can't work when one cannot edit the original Posts.

What these people do try to accomplish....?

Neverthelsess, I can't dwell on that too much and long on which defies
common sense and reason.

c) I, still believe that all have equal opportunities to express themselves on all Forums and threads even when use such tactics.

It is up to their nature: lower or Higher, which provides the input.

d) They can not change my beliefs in the notion that

it is possible and desirable to write/speak without deceit and lies.

e) I would, still, not make claims which they do not make, themselves, as would continue quoting both sides accurately.

f) When that is done, I can continue with the original ideas of thread unless just have to ignore as common sense may dictate that too at times.

In this life, one has to be able to handle both, as such is life.

HenryBowman: Please post more often. This has been a productive thread, wouldn't you agree?

I thank you for your desire to read more of what I post.

Unfortunately, posting more often is not always possible as I have a job and am involved in many things.
Time is of the essence.

I sincerely try, though, whenever time allows.

I also, admit that considerable time is taken away from the original Posts,
when I have to rebut deceit but, as I admitted - life is life...

I can handle it.

g) Any writing becomes productive to some degree and many people can receive a certain value from both sides.

I agree with you on your last point sincerely.




PS.
If any one doubts how HenryBowman operated in my case, I quote from the above post by him

on Today, 08:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharing Lights
hunter for Satan

Since HenryBowman implied that I am either Satan or Antichrist, in his earlier posts and more than once, (I state so,)
that indicated his, possible paranoia, as how else to call that behaviour?

If there is a more accurate term, my mind is opened to that.


I did call him a hunter for Satan, indeed, and always admit what do after reading his implications.

Is that more offensive to refer to the "hunter" than implying I am the hunted?

I apologize if that hurts his feelings, yet, I responded to what he accused me semi-poetically and do so often in my writings.

I felt that extensive lies and deceit may deserve such reply, as logic allows to assume that if I was pinpointed as Satan or Antichrist, the one who has "revealed me," had to be involved in some vigilant watch/search/hunting.
I, only, used logical assumptions in this stage.

I am not clear if that is truly deserved or not as used my subjective opinion based on the overall deceitfully conduct vs. me.

At least, I didn't lie or use deceit in return.


As I was accused of being one, I called the accuser a hunter for such, as how else could I have called him after what he implied himself?

I even try to calm him down so his quest for, possibly, performing the citizen's arrest on Satan or Antichrist.

I wrote on the meaning that as he has revealed and caught me, may he relax not and lead a peaceful life.

To my amazement, he still can't relax.
There is possibility that he may have suspected that
I found a females Satina or Antichristina.

As I have given no indication of homosexuality,
except stating that gays should have
equal rights to non-gays
as

the Sun shines equally to all,

the vigilant defender of God may
have assumed of possibility of more offsprings of Satan or Antichrist and that I can replicate with a female.

He is right, I can.

[Sharing Lights]

Part III

HenryBowman:

Ahhhh. So quoting the scripture is dirty tactics.


At least you have come out of the darkness and
shed light on that for me. Thank you.

You are welcomed.


Even after being accused of what has never written,
I state again in equal respect to all:
religious believers, atheists, and agnostics

there is nothing wrong in quoting anything, including any "Scriptures."

It is wrong and immoral to pervert them.

As for coming

out of the darkness

,
via your vigilant efforts,
I can only reply that as much as you oppose what
I try to share on the tremendous value to all humanity,
regarding how the Sun can affect as all
physically and spiritually, I may not be the one who ...

Whoever raises the sword,
shall suffer the consequences of the Sword!

The right for scientific, mediative, and spiritual quest for knowledge would be defended against any dogmas from any extreme:
scientific or religious.

Only both can complete both hemispheres of reality.

[aksis]

Sharing Lights,

I liked the first post, it was a good explination of the workings of "reaping what we have sewn"/"karmic reprecusions" ~ amoung other things.

What's Satan? I never mentioned it? Could you elaborate on that? Specificaly what Satan is? I am compleatly ignorant...

Originally Posted by Sharing Lights

Even the fact that you refer to the Father/Son already proves that you missed the whole picture as where is the Mother/Daughter?

Where is the Mother/Daughter?!?!?! Umm, isn't this exactly what you have been discorsing about? Did I need to mention what you have? Was that comment even directed to you?

Have I not expressed this principle previously: Spirit (Father) + Matter(Mother) = God = Alpha & Omega = Universe = All

Yet in Light of this, you persist that I am missing the "big picture"? Sounds like you are expressing to your "reflection", from my perspective...

You have yet to elaborat on Spirit and I felt as if you were disregarding it & attempting to replace this with sunlight, which, like sunlight, is permiating everything, yet, is not sunlight. Sunlight is a corser/cruder form of Spirit. You appear to me to have confused the sun & sunlight, (part of manifestation/Mother principle) with Spirit (Father Principle). Prehaps you were getting there... I am waiting, in the other thread, to see....

My comment in the other thread about the old saying "Don't worship the Morning Star", and, such sayings as this, had nothing to do with Satan/Lucifer. It was not my intention to get you mislabled, nor did I label you thusly or even imply it.

This guidance was given, to people who were confusing the Sun/Sunlight with the Spirit/Father Principle, when someone used the medaphore of the Sun to explain an aspect of God. I was simply clarifing the similarities and the subtle distinction between the 2 and offering the essance of why the age old saying was given in the first place, and, using the threads prolepsis as the example. It didn't even have anything to do with you at first. Also, a desire to prevent people from being mislead. You appeared lost in the medaphor...

Prehaps if I used the words "string theory" rather then "Spirit"? Shall I also do a dance while you work the music box?

Originally Posted by Sharing Lights

I do not want these people to be turned away just because they run into the "Representatives of God."

Nether do I, yet a lot of the science minded people, who believe themselves to be evolved monkies, seem to have a hard time grasping the sovereignty principle (that we are each sovereign and none more then another) & cling to the Alpha Male perceptions that come from mimicing animals. The whole Might is Right trip... etc.

I am not implying that you are that kind of science mind/ego, nor am I of a mind that is in compleat disagreement with science... yet there are way to many flawed theories in science for me to say I agree with it entirly... just a different kind of doggma as far as I am concerned.

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HeneryBowman,

Since you won't argue that the Father is omnipresent, what part of "within you" did you think I was refering to? Your brain/ego? Is God not permiating your brain matter? Could God influance your ego?

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Politician: How do we make these citizens compliant?

Religious Zelot: Have you tried burning them at the stake or a hot poker in the eye, prehaps better stories of hell?

Science Zelot: Naw, just send them to a mental hospital and use shock therapy, and, if that fails, we do a labotomy... its more humaim & less of a mess. Plus you can bill the insurance company twice & then there is the long term care perks & a new test subject...


Politician: Good ideas, glad I thought of them...

[Sharing Lights]

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aksis: Sharing Lights,

I liked the first post, it was a good explination of the workings of "reaping what we have sewn"/"karmic reprecusions" ~ amoung other things.

What's Satan? I never mentioned it? Could you elaborate on that? Specifically what Satan is? I am compleatly ignorant...


How are you?

References to Satan and Antichrist were done by Henry Bowman who is so busy copying/pasting Psalms as if can't answer on his own.

When my replies were posted, they reflected your and his posts accordingly.
No one is responsible for another.

All know who wrote what and when; therefore, all of us are responsible for our parts only.




Where is the Mother/Daughter?!?!?! Umm, isn't this exactly what you have been discorsing about? Did I need to mention what you have? Was that comment even directed to you?


Anytime the combo Father/Son mentioned, as is it is, a travesty and misrepresentation.

There can be no Son at all if there no interaction between masculine and feminine principles.

As there can be a Son in the process, there can be a Daughter.

Feminie is not any less important than masculine.

When one talks of the Spirit, it is a travesty and misrepresentation no to talk of Matter or Form.

Anytime only one half is presented, that is half truth only.

This concept refers to the Above and Below equally.

The Law of Polarization is Eternal.

Practically everything on complex level is polarized.

Even in our Solar system, the Sun represent the Spirit or moving forth Force and the Earth represents the Form or Matter, which received the light and warmth (the product of light.)

Once the Light (Spirit) impregnates the Earth (Matter/Form) Life is the Child.

As there many forms of Life, some are more of masculine. some more of Feminine nature, thus, Sons and Daughters...


Have I not expressed this principle previously: Spirit (Father) + Matter(Mother) = God = Alpha & Omega = Universe = All

Yet in Light of this, you persist that I am missing the "big picture"? Sounds like you are expressing to your "reflection", from my perspective...


The Law of Polarity is a basic Principle of Existence and has nothing to do with me.

You have yet to elaborat on Spirit and I felt as if you were disregarding it & attempting to replace this with sunlight, which, like sunlight, is permiating everything, yet, is not sunlight.


As you simply search and miss some parts in the process, it i snot the same as HB openly misrepresented what I wrote.


I like all can see the difference right away in the above.
Your intentions seem to be - to complete the picture, as you see it.
That is understandable.

I would reply that, I believe you misunderstood me.

I never replace one with another, as that can't work.

Our Sun does not replace the Principle of Spirit and I have never written so.

Iif you re-read the Posts, you would see the proof.

The Sun represents to humanity the closest, visible manifestation of the Spirit but only in the degree the former can encompass or represent the latter.

Your and mine physical Father on Earth, represent the Spirit and even, some Authority of God/Universe to you and me and all (their Father.)

Once again, it is true only in the degree that is represented.

The same is true for Mothers.

Furthermore, my goal and I do not hide it is to share knowledge with all - not only with religious believers.

I respect all equally based on their merit.

There would be Posts where I would have to venture into the depth of Spirituality but, before that, I try not to drive the purely scientific community away.

I try to look ahead when write ad not get caught in the proximity of the rhetorics only.




Sunlight is a corser/cruder form of Spirit. You appear to me to have confused the sun & sunlight, (part of manifestation/Mother principle) with Spirit (Father Principle). Prehaps you were getting there... I am waiting, in the other thread, to see....


Beautiful, you are right: the Sun and its sunlight are not the same.

There is another Higher Law which states that polarization can occur on subsequent levels and relativity is at play.

Another word, to our Earth, the Sun represents the Spirit.

When we look further at the concept of the Sun as a polarized entity, we can divide it further into light, fire, and heat.
Thus, we get sublevels.

There is another concept of the "Black Sun" but we would leave it alone for now.

I would ask you for the sake of concentration,

Questions:

1) which is masculine and which is feminine principle?

Answer only if like of course.
Providing answers if great but making readers search is even better.

2) which appears in which order: light, fire, heat?


My comment in the other thread about the old saying "Don't worship the Morning Star", and, such sayings as this, had nothing to do with Satan/Lucifer. It was not my intention to get you mislabled, nor did I label you thusly or even imply it.


Satan was brought in by HB.
He implied I wa it, then brough in Antichrist.
You have to ask him, which one I am now, as it i snt fair for me to anwser on his behalf as he did for me

The Sun is not worshiped.
It is the entity that made us all through the entity that created the Sun.
To us, thus, the Sun is the closest, before we can relate to the Higher Force.


This guidance was given, to people who were confusing the Sun/Sunlight with the Spirit/Father Principle, when someone used the medaphore of the Sun to explain an aspect of God. I was simply clarifing the similarities and the subtle distinction between the 2 and offering the essance of why the age old saying was given in the first place, and, using the threads prolepsis as the example. It didn't even have anything to do with you at first. Also, a desire to prevent people from being mislead. You appeared lost in the medaphor...


I believe your intentions and that reading and writing posts would clarify enough as time goes by.

Prehaps if I used the words "string theory" rather then "Spirit"? Shall I also do a dance while you work the music box?

Reread your own comment if like, particularly the last sentence.
You begin implying and not accurately.





Nether do I, yet a lot of the science minded people, who believe themselves to be evolved monkies, seem to have a hard time grasping the sovereignty principle (that we are each sovereign and none more then another) & cling to the Alpha Male perceptions that come from mimicing animals. The whole Might is Right trip... etc.


We did evolve not only from what you call monkeys, we evolve from single cells all te way to us.

Look at the Embryo chart I posted earlier.
We repeat all the stages of the Evolution as we went through it.



As I do not like assuming unless that is based on the obvious, I would rather ask you,

Questions:

1) How did human appear on Earth in your opinion?

2) Did they come on Earth as thee are now?

3) From where?

4) Do you deny the Evolution on Earth?

I can ask many questions.
I only wish to be fair to all, so you pick and choose or rephrase, just please stay on the subject.

I am not implying that you are that kind of science mind/ego, nor am I of a mind that is in complete disagreement with science... yet there are way to many flawed theories in science for me to say I agree with it entirly... just a different kind of doggma as far as I am concerned.

Quite often, yes.

Question: Meanwhile what is the theory you believe in, regarding humans as they appeared on Earth?

As, below, you only refer to HB, in order to be fair to him, I would not engage what was directed to him.
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HeneryBowman,

Since you won't argue that the Father is omnipresent, what part of "within you" did you think I was referring to? Your brain/ego? Is God not permiating your brain matter? Could God influance your ego?

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Politician: How do we make these citizens complant?

Religious Zelot: Have you tried burning them at the stake or a hot poker in the eye, prehaps better stories of hell?

Science Zelot: Naw, just send them to a mental hospital and use shock therapy, and, if that fails, we do a labotomy... its more humaim & less of a mess. Plus you can bill the insurance company twice & then there is the long term care perks & a new test subject...


Politician: Good ideas, glad I thought of them:

Originally Posted by Sharing Lights

We did evolve not only from what you call monkeys, we evolve from single cells all te way to us.

Look at the Embryo chart I posted earlier.
We repeat all the stages of the Evolution as we went through it.

BWHAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I believe some people are on their "return trip" of "devolution"

I needed that laugh. Thanks!

[Sharing Lights]

HenryBowman: BWHAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Part I:

If, honestly, that is exactly how most of what I perceive as your fanaticism based dogma sounded to me.
You summed it up in one phrase so well.

HenryBowman: BWHAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

end of Part I

HenryBowman: I believe some people are on their "return trip" of "devolution"

I am sure, some are.

As, I, also, believe you implied that my beliefs
followed by logical and common sense arguments
and reasoning, as well scientific data,
when available to all are attributes of the de-evolving man.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Yet, then, I ask are you that sure you are evolving and,
if yes, in which direction?

Just a thought and a question.

I, also, can tell you as honestly as what
I write without catering to any agenda or person,
except what I believe sincerely, I have no problem with
other people believing in anything, including in an
instant coffee and instant and miraculous appearing of
two people on Earth, not necessarily in that order.

Out of the blue, God just worked his/her magic
and there they are.

I do not believe in magic.
I believe in Cause and Effect
as the concept of God implies logic and even perfection.

I believe even para-normal events
have a rational explanation, whether discovered or not yet.

As God is perfect, what is so perfect in
defying his/her own laws of physics,
via miracles, God "gave" us?

It does not bother me that some folks would believe
that and close their eyes to what they
witness every day.


Part II

I have confidence
that they see that it takes years for tree to grow,
that birds need moths to mature before they can fly,
and they, all, can learn that it takes nine month
(about) to give birth to a human baby.

end of Part II

I, also, realize that our
opinions represent millions of people, as some believe
in Creation of the Universe and humans in just seven
days and some believe that it took billions of years
of Evolution.


But, do you know what, I do not laugh at those people
who believe in seven days of the Creation, as I wonder
how deep must be their inability to realize that
the INDISPUTABLE statements in
Part II contradict a blind belief that
everything was accomplished in only, seven days.

The Earth was forming billions of years,
as radio-analysis proves that beyond any doubt
and the WHOLE WORLD WAS CREATED IN SEVEN DAYS.


That is not funny to me at all.


If these people believe in such obvious contradictions,
they can be lead to believe
in anything as long as some,
clever minds manage to convince them
that the TRUTH as coming from the Bible.


Just put a label "Bible and these people would believe anything they woulds read there.

What a perfect solution to brainwashing.

By the way the same techniques were used by Hitler and Stalin.

Their words were viewed by millions of their natives as words of truth and reality no mater how absurd propaganda was.


People lied and turned each other in, killed and stole
from others, believing that they followed
the proper and right orders.

They had their "bibles" written by these leaders.

SL: Fanaticism does not make me laugh at all.

I realize well that if "Jihad," for example would be officially proclaimed, millions and million would die in its name, believing that Allah, himself/herself spoke to them.

I do not laugh at all.

How many Jews were burned by some Christians, (while Jesus of Nazareth was also a Jew) is of monumental numbers?

I could go on and on.


Yet, I would rather, respectfully, ask you, as Believe you would reply based on your, sincerely beliefs the following:

If, possible answer a simple: yes or no.

I only ask for clarification to all.

SL:

1) Was the World created in seven days?

2) Was Adam created in one day?

3) Was Eve created only after he was created?

4) Was she created out of his rib?

5) Did a snake talk to Eve?

6) What was the language the snake was speaking?

7) Do vocal cord allow any snake to speak Adam utter human phrases?

8) Are three any offspring's of the original serpent who can speak also?

9) If and when there was flood, did Noah put all the animals on his "boat?"

10) If yes, what was approximate size of that boat to house the whole animal kingdom?

11) Were the animals fed during the flood or all fasted until it subsided?

12) Would gays go to hell?

13) Would bi-sexual spend some time in hell and
some time in heaven or still, drop down to Hades?

14) Did Jesus' of Nazareth physical body rose to heaven?

15) While flesh of humans is proved to rot under earth,
would these corpse be resurrected in their,
original physical body?

16) Are those who attend Houses of Warship guaranteed a seat in heaven?

17) What assures a path there (this in not a yes/no question but requires more?)

18) Are only Christians can get to Heaven or others too?

19) As there so many contradicting each other
denominations of Christian which one
can get to heave or all of them?

20) Would atheists who do not believe in God
as you do but who act decently, still, drop to hell?

21) Are you going to heaven?

22) Is it permissible to have sex for a reason
different that procreation?

23) As you used the term "Father" often
but not "Mother" once, are men more important
than women?

24) If not, why didn't you use "Mother" equally?

25) Did both parents of Jesus of Nazareth conceived
him or only his mother and no sperm entered
her womb but only a Holy Spirit did?

25) Is the Bible written in English original one or translated?

26) Is it possible that some meaning was lost
or altered during translations?

27) Are all words in the Bible to be taken literally or some symbolic representation was used?

28) Are humans are changing or the same way as they were created?

29) Would those who advocate interacting with the Sun are precluded from entering heaven?

30) Do humans reincarnate or live only once?

31) Do humans go to heaven or hell forever?

32) Would I go to hell for disagreeing with you?

33) What do I need to do in order to get to heaven?

34) Are immoral acts committed by people on their own or devil made them do them?

I believe it is enough for now.

HenryBowman: I needed that laugh. Thanks!

I am glad I made you laugh.