Where is the land of Nod?

[2tim215]

Originally Posted by Codee

If you are not ashamed, why do you wear clothing?

Codee,

This post wasn't really intended as a response to any of your questions. It was actually a response to questions posted by rentiap and Big Al. I should have responded to their post but inadvertently clicked the wrong button. Got two different sets of questions going and they kind of criss-crossed. Sorry for the confusion. I am still trying to answer your other questions (if you still want me to) and should have them done soon. May have gotten a little off-track.

2tim215
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

BTW, the signature scripture I use is one that's become very important to me. It was given by the apostle Paul in which he tells us that if we want God's approval, then we need to study His word (the Holy Bible), not only for His approval but in order to be able to discern the truth of the Bible. The "word of truth" is another name for the Bible as it has all purity of truth. However, even though God's word is true, men will corrupt it and therefore it is impertative to study it so that you won't be fooled and be able to come up with the correct intepretation and more importantly application. You will also be able to tell if some one is honestly preaching to you or just trying to pull the wool over your eyes or perhaps even intentionally misleading you. Hope this explains it.

[2tim215]

Originally Posted by Big Al

Packs a wah loop, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Big Al

Packs a wah loop, doesn't it?

I'm not sure what you mean by a "wah loop" big Al. I guess I'll have to look that up on the Internet.

Peace.

2tim215

[aksis]

Codee, the word 'atman' (sounds kind of like Adam), is an interesting word from the hindu culture. I think there were more then just 2 people.

You might also find this Wikipedia article on the deluge (flood) interesting. Obviously more then Noah survived to tell the tail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_%28mythology%29

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

Atman \At"man\, n. [Skr. [=a]tman.] (Hinduism)

(a) The life principle, soul, or individual essence.

(b) The universal ego from whom all individual atmans arise.

[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

P.S.

We would sometimes, in a slang tense when talking about herion/opium junkies, say they were in the "land of Nod" after fixing... due to the effects of the drug making them 'nod' off, and the lifestyle of "wandering" in the "outer darkness".

Here is a before and after picture of one:

[Shoonra]

(1) "the Land of Nod" (Gen 4:16) This is, presumably, a geographic reference but it predates the story of Noah, and it is not mentioned again, so the location may have been completely erased in Noah's Flood. The name, however, suggests that it is not a fixed location but a metaphore that means "the world of exile" or something similar; the name NOD is closely akin to the Hebrew word for fugitive or wandering (as in Jer 4:1, 48:27 & 49:30; 2K 21:8, Dan 4:11).

(2) Cain's wife: As the personages of Genesis are uncommonly long-lived, we are not told how much time passed before Cain got a wife. I think it is undoubted that this - and all the other marriages early in Genesis - were consanguinous, so she may have been a sister or a niece or grand-niece of Cain. Some of the matings in the earliest generations must have been closely incenstuous, and probably someone could calculate the minimum brother-sister matings that would produce enough cousins and nieces to provide mates for everyone else. Refined sensibilities and distaste for consanguinous matings would have to wait until the world's population was considerably more numerous.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

(1) "the Land of Nod" (Gen 4:16) This is, presumably, a geographic reference but it predates the story of Noah, and it is not mentioned again, so the location may have been completely erased in Noah's Flood. The name, however, suggests that it is not a fixed location but a metaphore that means "the world of exile" or something similar; the name NOD is closely akin to the Hebrew word for fugitive or wandering (as in Jer 4:1, 48:27 & 49:30; 2K 21:8, Dan 4:11).

(2) Cain's wife: As the personages of Genesis are uncommonly long-lived, we are not told how much time passed before Cain got a wife. I think it is undoubted that this - and all the other marriages early in Genesis - were consanguinous, so she may have been a sister or a niece or grand-niece of Cain. Some of the matings in the earliest generations must have been closely incenstuous, and probably someone could calculate the minimum brother-sister matings that would produce enough cousins and nieces to provide mates for everyone else. Refined sensibilities and distaste for consanguinous matings would have to wait until the world's population was considerably more numerous.

I consider Adam and Eve more symbolic of a cusp in human development where, being aware of a Creator concept, we became culpable for acknowledging, worship and praise of God.

There is a real possibility of a firmament; a hydrogen ice layer in the sky that was holding the air before the Deluge under pressure, and of course with a much higher oxygen content. There is indication that neither rainstorms or rainbows existed prior to the Deluge. This also explains long lifespans in a hyperbolic oxygen chamber and the ability to grow to massive size like the dinosaurs. The Deluge may have been the hydrogen shell mixing with the oxygen (burning) and resulting in a huge, long rain. If that theory were true, then all the land would have been very soaked but not submerged.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[aksis]

Shoonra, I speculate that these first people were what inspired the mythos of the gods and godesses... seeing as how they were created in God's image and likeness.

The form that people have today is the "fallen state", the higher Self, or Soul still exists, and continues to exist after the embodiment ends, yet the mind/ego, from what I have observed in most people, is ignorant to this.

If I could call to mind the stories about gods and godesses "choosing a mortal life"...

David, I have heard about that theory, like a globe of thick mist or thin layer of water that would have existed where what is called the stratosphere(sp?) does in this day and age.

I also have heard that the earth was smaller, more compact.

[Smith]

Nod = wondering

refer to verse 12

[Shoonra]

Not wondering. Wandering.

And, I think, clearly not a geographic location that could still be identified after Noah's Flood.

[David Merrill]

I also have heard that the earth was smaller, more compact.

If associated with what I said, that would be under higher atmospheric pressure. The higher water pressure causes larger animals, arachnids like crabs (are just large spiders). Ergo dinosaurs.

[aksis]

David, Yes. I hear there was a guy that was growing plants in a pressure chamber... cherry tomatos the size of softballs (or bigger) from what I hear...