
06-05-2005, 08:03 PM
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I have just received word that Winston will not longer be doing seminars. This is a quote from an email I just received. "He is transcending into another level of projects and feels everything he has to say has been said in his seminars and the videos and documents are available from his organization. He was on a call with Dr. Horton on Monday night and made it clear that he was moving on."
I am sorry that he has decided not to do any more seminars. I have liked his method of teaching. He not only lectured but answered questions for the attendees as well. He also would use diagrams to illistrate what he wanted to convey and would pass out material that would be covered. Some other seminars I have attended none of this was done or the material handed out was useless. Not so with Winston.
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06-05-2005, 08:59 PM
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What is the name of his organization... I have never been able to find this out from anyone.
Jerry.
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06-06-2005, 07:12 AM
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I do not even have an email address for him. I believe he has posted on her before and may be contacted that way. That is if it is still good. Maybe Jason has a good email address or knows how to make contact with his organization.
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06-06-2005, 07:48 AM
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thanks
Winston Shrout! That is the name I have been trying to remember for a couple days.
I hear he started this rumor that if you cause mandatory judicial notice on a "judge" he may become a judicial officer (as opposed to magistrate/administrator). There is something very exciting about that rumor. I think one with understanding of the current banking infrastructure could function if it is true.
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06-06-2005, 09:11 AM
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David,
I have heard that from Winston Shrout and others as well. It has even been posted by some on this forum in the past. How one would force the "Judge" to take judicial notice of his oath of office I have no experience with. Someone else may want to chime in on this
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06-07-2005, 12:11 PM
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iamfree,
I believe Winston stated at one of his seminars that one must secure an agreement of the parties (or exhaust admin rememdies--I forget which) for the black-robed one to act in his judicial capacity, else he'll continue to act as a magistrate or chancellor. Perhaps people are having a difficult time switching Mr. Black to judicial mode because they haven't done this.
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06-07-2005, 12:53 PM
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giving them an oath as a contract agreement
I don't know how many of you listen to Rice McCleod and Ed Brannum in Texas but here is what they have been using for quite some time now with success (I have not verified, this is just what I have heard). Basically, we know they have to have an oath of office so we give them one as "accepted as true" and then it becomes a binding contract which can be used later in a criminal action if they still do not adhere to it. Let me know what you think. I have not had to use it yet but I think it's only a matter of time. This document has my state flag (Illinois) and the US flag at the top. I'm not sure exactly what that means. Also there are seperate ones for giving to the cop at a traffic stop, bankers, attornies. You are to serve them this in person or by UPS or Fed-ex and NOT via metered USPS. For some reason, it is illegal to send legal docs through metered USPS which I am not sure of. If anybody can explain that to me please do. Also, another reason we must give them (and accept) this oath is because even if they have one on file somewhere, it will likely be in the ALL CAPS NAME.
OFFICIAL NOTICE/DEMAND by an American Sovereign!
TO: ANY Man/Woman GIVING OATH OR AFFIRMATION FOR SERVICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION TO SERVE AS A EMPLOYEE ELECTED AND/OR APPOINTED AS AN OFFICIAL ADMINISTRATOR OR AGENT AND WHO SO EVER ACTS WITH DISHONOR REGARDING his/her OATH OF OFFICE under God in Violations(s) of my Sovereign Rights.
In the name of God, Amen; I, me, my, myself, a living soul sui juris Illinoisian American Sovereign without the UNITED STATES, formally accept for value your Oath and/or Affirmation of Office without the UNITED STATES by you’re affirming (swearing), "so help Me God". I formally accept for value with lawful conditions your delegated, regulatory authority and your timely public declaration to fiduciary officeholder by Oath and/or Affirmation by limiting you to all enforcement claims brought forth, "UNDER PENALTIES OF PERJURY". Further, I formally accept for value your Oath with conditions that all RETURNS must be signed Under Penalties of Perjury upholding and notwithstanding all your Oaths and/or Affirmations. I formally accept for value your Oath or Affirmation(s) of Office beholding to our Creator God as being truth. Leviticus 19:12, Deuteronomy 6:13-15, I Kings 8:31-32, Ecclesiastes 5:3-6, Mathew 23:11-30, James 1:6-7.
Therefore you and I have joinder under God in a firm binding private contract, I demand you uphold your part of the private contract, non ultra vires, as laid down by our Creator in His Holy Word and declared in the one organic Constitution for Illinois a republic and with all other Oaths and Affirmations notwithstanding. To do otherwise initiates Dishonor unto Him and breach of good faith with me.
Absent the above private contract I can not recognize you acting in Corporate Color of Law and/or if your affidavit to act against myself is not signed UNDER PENALTIES OF PERJURY as you so pledged. You are in want of geographical jurisdiction concerning myself, a declared Illinoisian American Sovereign outside Washington D.C. All charges against me sui juris American Sovereign must state a claim on which relief can be granted. To do otherwise initiates Dishonor and breach of good faith with me.
Absent this private contract you now become personally liable for the protection of my entire Illinoisan American Sovereignty without the UNITED STATES, therefore I demand you honor my reserved rights in common law and commerce which is created with imprescriptibility as mine and are inalienable, and unalienable in their entirety. To do otherwise initiates Dishonor unto Him our Creator and breach of good faith with me.
Absent the above private contract involving my Sovereign private affairs arrived at without recourse and dishonor with you, being one of the created d.b.a. UNITED STATES Corporation(s) is fired from using Esquires, Attorneys or appointing any kind of legal representation for making legal determinations involving me. Doing otherwise initiates Dishonor unto Him our Creator and breach of good faith with me and in International Maritime Law voids your fiduciary worthiness. I further declare I am confident to handle my own affairs and I do not own or reside on or in any body of water.
THEREFORE, YOU ARE NOTICED THAT YOU MAY BE ABOUT TO COMMIT A CRIMINAL ACT, IN DISHONOR OF YOUR OATH(S), UNDER COLOR OF LAW against my Father and myself a declared Illinoisian American Sovereign without the UNITED STATES. You must understand that claims may be brought against you PERSONALLY since you are operating outside the bounds of your authority. THE STATE OF ILLINOIS/UNITED STATES offers no protection to its administrators, agents or employees elected or appointed when they operate outside the bounds of their jurisdiction.
I demand acknowledgement and receipt of this NOTICE/DEMAND to be attached to your copy of any charging instrument being brought against me requiring a fine, pleading, subpoena or arrest of myself or my private property. If you refuse to sign this Notice/Demand it will be declared tendered and dishonored by affidavit. Your signature is an acknowledgement of the receipt of this information which may be introduced as evidence for initiated claim(s) and is not an admission of any guilt:
Living Name: ___________________ d.b.a. ________________________________________
Signature: ________________________________ Date: ____________
Your Bonding Co. #:_________________________________ Phone No. _____________
I demand you furnish to me any/all CUSIP and/or Bid/Performance/Underwriters Bond numbers assigned and/or attached to any case/cause and/or any birth certificate/social security number and/or any created accounting system with name/number concerning the under signed and/or any derivative name with similar intent(s). #s ____________________________.
I demand instructions be furnished in order for me to make a post-settlement and closure of any such accounting within 10 days.
Regards:
me By ____________________________
I, me, my, myself By _________________________, a Sui Juris Living-Soul, Claimant. I am not a corporation. I am a declared Private-Illinoisian-American-Sovereign without the UNITED STATES and under all my rights reserved, without Recourse.
By________________________ By__________________________
Witness Witness
Return To me, By___________________________
c/o_________________________
County of __________________
_____________, Illinois, a republic
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06-07-2005, 02:09 PM
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excerpt from Winston seminar
This is an excerpt from a seminar Winston did in June, 2003 --
"A - Well, look, all the courts are in equity as long as there is somebody sitting there in front with a black dress on. Because that man or woman sitting up there with a black dress on, represents a minister. They're not a judge and don't confuse them with a judge.
The minister will not get into contract with you. All you're doing is bringing your contract in front of the minister to see whether or not your process is correct. And if it is, the minister will give you an execution on your contract.
Now there are circumstances where you might NOT want to be in equity. What you have to do then, you have to get a judge in there and you have to bring in the bond, bring in the judge's bond, to put him into a judicial situation. I CAN TELL YOU HOW TO DO THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
But almost all the courts that you go into, unless you specifically set it up otherwise, is going to be a court of equity, a fictional equity, by the way!
Q - So how would you set up the bond; how would you go about doing that?
A - OK. If you want to set up a court for judicial, where you actually have a judge, there are two ways you can do it. (1) You can either do it on paper - you can put in (let's see, I'm trying to think of the right words to say, anyway, I've got the paperwork), you can put in the paperwork where you bring the oath of office of John Smith, doing business as judge, see, you have to bring in the real man. Because somewhere down the line, a real man raised his right arm to the square and swore an oath either to the constitution or state constitution or something. A real man did that. And so, what you'll have to do, if you do it on paper, you'll go and get a certified copy of the real man's oath of office and put the paperwork into the court. (2) The other way you can do it, you can do it verbally right in the courtroom, which I've done, that is you ask the judge (the guy sitting there in the black outfit), you would ask him, "Do you, John Smith, have an oath of office?" And they generally admit, yeah they do have an oath of office. And then you ask, "Well, is it in the courtroom today?" And they might say yes or no. But in any event, you say, "But you do certify that you do have an oath of office?" "Yes, I have an oath of office." Well, "Will the court take judicial notice of the oath of office of John Smith." See?
Now, if the court takes judicial notice of the oath of office of John Smith, now you've got his oath in the court and now you've turned him into a judge. He's not a minister anymore so he doesn't have discretion in equity; he's a judge. And the ONLY thing a judge can look at is facts and law. See, the minister is looking at statutes and codes and all that crap. But a judge can only look at and see facts and law. And it's all together different than what goes on in the court with the equity or with the minister. So, if you think that you need a judge instead of a minister, there may be circumstances where you will."
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06-07-2005, 03:37 PM
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Thanks Seeker for posting that. I remember it on Winston's DVD from Albequerque. I have to go through them again and take copious notes.
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06-08-2005, 01:45 AM
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I am in touch with Winston when need be. You are correct regarding his claims of moving on. There are a great many other projects that Winston is involved with and the time has come for him to focus his attention on these other endeavors.
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