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Old 09-15-2005, 08:01 PM
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Red face What's the Hurry!

Cindy Neun suggest that the defense will do all that they can not to slow the trial down.

However, I think that letting the trial slow down is not a bad thing. A fast pace in the trial only works to strengthen the trained litigator's hand. He or she does this all the time. Why play to their strength?

Maybe, use a few objections, or perhaps, an interlocutory appeal, to find out why the judge may be ruling in a manner that is not understood, are in order.

The jury may/will need sometime to understand the issues. This may help them get out of the "rubber stamp" frame of mind.

Larken Rose's trial was fast. Al Thompson's trial was fast.

I think that the defense should be careful in matching speed with a trained litigator (or team).
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Old 02-26-2006, 07:32 PM
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Cool Have to file...

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If you learn the truth early enough, the best bet is to never start filing anything at all. The initial return is what appears to activate you "account" in the IRS computer system. If you don't activate it in the first place through a 1040, then you won't have to bother with the commercial statements either.

Educate your children.

Your idea is good except in my situation and other's in my situation. By Immigration law, or what ever it is, we have to file to prove to Immigration that we are not dependant on this country or the state we live in. If we cannot prove that we are financially independant of the system we are deported. I certainly don't have this problem.

I never came here to not file. I learned about this sovereignity stuff because my wife has cancer for the last couple of years now. Because she had prior cancer 11 years ago the premiums were too costly to get any coverage before this time. Now the bills are piling up. Being self-employed and from Canada where we have national health care I started questioning why I have to pay taxes and get nothing in return, except this debt ever increasing.

I would love to pose this question to any jury - if I were a govt employee who btw get excellent benefits - you pay taxes but you get no benefits but I do and your going into debt in a big way and you are a honest hard working person, would you continue to pay taxes? Or at the very least start questioning the system we live in?

The key words above to me are would you continue to pay taxes knowing what you know now about the system and here at SuiJuris.

Also doing my research I am wondering if we are really federal employees at this time (as per the 14th amendment?) and how we are perceived by the IRS as federal entities/corporations thus enabling those persons as such to be taxable subjects and if so then we all should have the same benefits as the people who have a federal govt stamp on their pay...

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Old 02-27-2006, 07:29 PM
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So let's get him some help

Anyone whom can contact Mr. Schiff should let him know that if he has any bank accounts involving a Signature Card ,the fine print on the back of that card puts him in contract with the IRS regardless of any or no laws about taxes.
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:37 AM
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Now what is up with this. the ilink doesnt work and some of the things that were posted in here ive never heard of ahppening in the court... i kept updated on that and i would not miss something like shiff saying that he was wrong on the irs






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he following article was sent out by Judicial Reform Investigations, http://court.to



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“SCHIFF PLEADS INSANITY”



“For not paying Federal Income Tax”



Schiff admits he has been Wrong all along!



Schiff followers left out in the cold to fend for themselves!



On January 21st Irwin Schiff filed a brief claiming “Insanity” in his defense through his Attorney for failing to pay Federal Income Taxes.



The case is being litigated in the District Court of Nevada Civil Case CV-S-01-0895-PMP (LRL). The Federal government is seeking judgment to collect the Federal Income Tax in the amount of $2,276,244.78 for the years 1979-1985 Schiff has failed to pay in which he was convicted of in October of 1985 and Affirmed in December 1985.



In his brief Schiff claims that he suffers from a mental disease or defect and exhibits symptoms of chronic severe delusional disorder. He further contends through descriptions of his behavior through his doctor that he has chronic acute bipolar disorder, depression and a delusional personality disorder. He claims his distorted beliefs have grown out of stress from his business failures.



He claims that his delusional beliefs will continue unabated in the future along with a significant element of Paranoia. He further contends that his beliefs system in not under his voluntary control and he has little or no ability to alter his beliefs and additionally claims his behavior is not rational and unlikely to remit.



Along with his brief Schiff filed approximately 400 pages of exhibits to support his claim and plea of insanity including some of his own court quotes as:



“ Noboby knows this except me, apparently, but I’m educating the public”



“That’s all I have been doing all my life is litigating. One of these days I hope to get it right.”



Additionally filed within the 400 pages of exhibits to support his claim and plea of insanity were affidavits even one from one of his own attorneys stating:



"When confronted with contradictions in his conclusions, Schiff either ignores the challenge or moves on to new exhortations of what the law is and his omniscient 'expertise' on the meaning of income, taxable income, the court's applying the wrong standard, banking and/or money."



"Schiff's belief system appears to be completely circular: within that system Schiff is right, the government and the courts are wrong and he remains impervious to rational discussion."



"My attempts at rational discussions with Mr. Schiff have been more difficult than any”



"Stints of incarceration for years, IRS levies for hundres of thousands of dollars, substantial sanctions and fines imposed by (1) the Second Circuit for bringing incorrect appeals and (2) the United States Tax Court for presenting groundless and incorrect arguments demonstrate that Schiff's belief system is impervious to negative feed back. Schiff's expectation seems to be that someday the federal courts will experience an epiphany and acknowlege that he has been right all along."



"Based on all the foregoing and Occam's razor, I was forced to conclude that Mr. Schiff probably suffers from a severe delusional disorder or other mental disease or defect."





Schiff lastly stated through his Attorney in his conclusion of the 8 page brief that:



"Based on the prior incarcerations, sanctions, fines, reported decisions rejecting Schiff's theories, Schiff's Deposition Transcripts instanter, revocation of probate transcript, Declaration of William A. Cohan and attached psychological reports rendered by Dr. Ortega and Dr. Barry there exists a genuine dispute as to a material issue of fact precluding summary judgment: i.e., whether Mr. Schiff suffers from a mental disease or defect relevant to the issue of 'willfulness' and/or guilt and/or his liability vel non for civil fraud penalties."





<a hrefl="http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq/schiff_opp_sj.pdf">You can read the full brief here.</a>



Irwin Schiff Self-Proclaimed himself to be the Nations leading authority on the "income tax". Does that make him so? NO! He now claims Insanity!



Schiff claims to have written and self-published more books on the "income tax" then any other author. This may be so. Does this make him an expert? NO! He now claims those books were written from being mentally diseased with a delusional personality disorder.



Does his books mean his theories were sound and based on logic and solid evidence? NO! He now claims to be Insanity in regards to those beliefs!



I am not a doctor nor have I ever gone to medical school. So if I proclaim to be the Nations leading authority on heart surgery does that make me so? NO! I can write 10 books on heart surgery. Does that make me an expert? NO! Would you want me operating on you? I bet the answer is NO!!!!!



You must never take some Self-Proclaimed Guru's word for anything. You must always look at the "Evidence" yourself for what it is, not for what you want it to be or some Guru says it is. You must always read Court decisions i.e. "case law" yourself for what they say and refer to, not for what you want them to say and mean or some Guru says they mean.



As you can see the Guru will always leave you out in the cold to fend for yourself while they cop a plea to save themselves no matter what harm it does to those who rely on him!



LUKE 11:52 "Woe unto you, lawyers!"

LET THE CONSTITUTION SPEAK



Judicial Reform Investigations

http://www.court.to
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