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Old 07-16-2008, 02:13 PM
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people have been freed from Federal Lockup, had liens removed, traveled to panama, dominican republic and back w/o passport, etc . ..
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:19 PM
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people have been freed from Federal Lockup, had liens removed, traveled to panama, dominican republic and back w/o passport, etc . ..

So you say !!

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Old 07-16-2008, 02:43 PM
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It requires FRN's to publish the book and mail it.

Much if not most of the law info involved is available for free anyway.

I am not endorsing or defending anyone or anything, and I am not saying people should not ask their questions either.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:47 PM
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people have been freed from Federal Lockup, had liens removed, traveled to panama, dominican republic and back w/o passport, etc . ..

Wow weis, this is an incredible claim, I would love to do all this stuff without spending the thousands of dollars every year on my international offshore "setup". Do you have any links dude? It would be much appreciated... Thanks...

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Actually Weish, I have a more serious problem with 'paying rent'. I have absolutely no income, zero, nada, zilch. I have a roof over my head, at the moment, only due to the good graces of my eldest son. Who, by the way, has a very low paying job, and he has a difficult time making ends meet especially since he decided to allow me to move in with them in order to keep me from having to live on the streets. That's right folks. Not a pot to pee in nor a window to throw it out, that can rightfully be said to be mine.

Jerry, it's capitalism dude! It's all about the MONEY! What can you do? I guess even freedom isn't truly free and has a price eh? And don't worry too much about your situation, just have faith in God and everything will be ok, trust me, I have been there buddy, it wasn't so long ago when I used to sleep in my car! I just kept my faith in God, used my brain a lil and made some serious cash in the stock market, this was my big break and I have had it pretty good since then (Thank God), so don't worry you will be ok...

Anyway, I have the "Red Amendment", it's quite good but it's not really worth it for me, I am lucky enough to afford some other good strategies. Normally, since I am a bit of a "bastard" (in the English "street" sense) and don't give a crap about most things, and since I believe in helping people out, I would have happily got one of my friends to convert the "Red Amendment" into a PDF file which can be easily distributed via uTorrent/Limewire etc. to all you good people for free of charge BUT only if I had the proper permission from PAC/LB Bork to do so.

Usually, I don't give a crap about the law or any other man-made BS laws for that matter and happily break them if they don't inconvenience me too much, but never will I break God's law. I freely download and share commercial (for profit) stuff all the time and it doesn't bother me at all. Even when I buy something, I usually share that too, regardless of the crappy terms and conditions, because if they can't secure their products properly then that's their problem, we can take whatever we want if it is virtually discarded and left out in the open. It's just like walking on the street one day and finding a $100 bill, if its on the ground and no one is there to rightfully claim it then it's yours buddy. It's not theft, you just found it, so it's all good... Also, when it comes to all these evil, greedy and scum bag corporations, who cares?

However, the reason why I MUST honor the agreement between PAC (LB Bork) and myself is because it is someone else's honest and hard work and it is not for profit. When purchasing the "Red Amendment", I fully understood and agreed to the terms and conditions, thus it would be totally unethical/immoral and against God's law to break that agreement. If it was a regular commercial product, you guys wouldn't even have to ask, I would happily distribute it freely. So, if PAC/Mr. Bork doesn't mind, he can give permission and the "Red Amendment" PDF file will be created with in a few days and given out freely, otherwise you guys will have to send PAC/LB Bork your hard earned money $$$ and hope it was worth it...

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It requires FRN's to publish the book and mail it.

Much if not most of the law info involved is available for free anyway.

I am not endorsing or defending anyone or anything, and I am not saying people should not ask their questions either.

Hi mrg, what about a PDF file version for free? This cost nothing to produce... What do you think?

Best regards to all,

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Old 07-16-2008, 09:00 PM
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Hi mrg, what about a PDF file version for free?

Best regards to all,

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You already said "what about."

You can go to the PAC website and read for free, is what I meant.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:11 PM
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You already said "what about."

I did?

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You can go to the PAC website and read for free, is what I meant.

Cool, then Jerry and the rest of the guys should do that...

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Old 07-16-2008, 09:55 PM
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You already said "what about."

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I did?

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However, the reason why I MUST honor the agreement between PAC (LB Bork) and myself is because it is someone else's honest and hard work and it is not for profit.

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Old 07-16-2008, 09:59 PM
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I did?



Cool, then Jerry and the rest of the guys should do that...

Regards,

IA

The Red Amendment is not published on his website. it is only sold from his website.

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Old 07-17-2008, 11:29 AM
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The Red Amendment is not published on his website. it is only sold from his website.

Jerry Carlos
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Hi Jerry, I have read the Red Amendment and it is mostly about the 14th Amendment and the various issues surrounding it. This PAC related website has some info. about the Red Amendment. http://www.redamendment.net/home.php

However, PAC/LB Bork are not the only ones who talk about the 14th Amendment, many other people do too. Here's some Google links: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&btnG=Se arch

A very interesting link is this one: http://www.volconvo.com/forums/socie...pure-evil.html There is a person here who talks about the evil of the 14th Amendment and offers some more info and links, this one was quite good!

Hope this helps, best regards,

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Old 07-17-2008, 05:00 PM
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I found out about these successes AFTER i signed up.

In other words, the success stories WERE NOT the draw card.

I did it because after reading the book, and the numerous IN LAW references; I decided tht it was the right thing to do.

That's why I did this, because it was the right thing to do.

The people who have shared their successes w/me are members, and I take their word for it.

I didn't ask them for proof, and I don't have to run around like your monkey/messenger boy and prove anything to any of you

The case has been stated in the Red Amendment, and until you understand what's going on in the book, you won't make the decision regarding whether or not it's the right thing to do. You will always be one who puts the EXPEDIENCY of so called "remedies" ABOVE the PRINCIPLE regarding why it is right to correct your status.

So, all that said, this is a win-win situation :

I don't have to be your monkey/messenger boy and hunt down testimonials from members, and you don't have to study why correcting your status is the right thing to do, because you care about the expediency of the remedies more


SOunds like a good agreement to me.

Keep draftin' those BOE's and enjoy your National ID's, citizens !


Remember, I did not sign up because of the expedient remedies, I signed up due to principle.
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