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Old 07-17-2008, 05:35 PM
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Usually, I don't give a crap about the law or any other man-made BS laws for that matter and happily break them if they don't inconvenience me too much, but never will I break God's law.

taking someone elses stuff and distributing without the creator's consent is theft - that is a violation of God's law

also, you may be violating the 2nd commandment by making a God to suit yourself ( i.e. "My God" thinks that uploading someone else's property w/o their consent isn't theft)
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:26 PM
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taking someone elses stuff and distributing without the creator's consent is theft - that is a violation of God's law

also, you may be violating the 2nd commandment by making a God to suit yourself ( i.e. "My God" thinks that uploading someone else's property w/o their consent isn't theft)

To my knowledge, he has not violated any law, whether it be mans' or Gods'. An offer was extended and was very blatantly rejected. The rejection was based upon his having a copy and giving a public opinion of what he believed it to be worth. Don't be so quick to admonish someone for an act that has not been committed. The rejection was given via PM.

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Old 07-17-2008, 09:31 PM
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Keep draftin' those BOE's and enjoy your National ID's, citizens !

My citizenship status is cited in my signature line. Where is yours?

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If ever the laws of God and man are at variance, the former are to be obeyed in derogation of the latter.

'Many are the plans in a man's heart,
but it's the Lord's purpose that prevails."
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:24 AM
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taking someone elses stuff and distributing without the creator's consent is theft - that is a violation of God's law

also, you may be violating the 2nd commandment by making a God to suit yourself ( i.e. "My God" thinks that uploading someone else's property w/o their consent isn't theft)


private property is imaginary. Its just an emotional projection, a sort of selfishness, trying to impute some special character to bits and pieces of the universe. In this sense, private property is merely a social construct.

This is different from priority of use, possession, enjoyment, etc. How does making a copy of this book disrupt anyone's priority? They still have their copies just the same.

put it this way- 'no harm, no foul'. What harm is there in making a copy of some information and putting it on the web? None that I can see.

In law, a crime is measured by the damage it does- "theft under 1000, grand theft, etc". What is the "fair-market value" of the loss to Bork or whoever?

Remember, mere benefit on one part is not automatically equal to another's loss.


People need to stop trying to "sell" everything- pay it forward instead. If this approach to status is valid then there should be some attendant material benefits that allow one to be philanthropic with the info. Nobless Oblige, and all that.

Any contract that promises to do the impossible is void, or that part is. Besides, I can always make copies for my own use, I can lend the book , I can lend copies...I understand it perjures the conscience to break the given word (the copyright), but it was a stupid clause to begin with. The author shouldn't put anyone in this position.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:45 AM
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Not really imaginary, though not material in origin. Scripture points out the validity of 'ownership' of property, but that concept (imagining) like all other concepts are 'incorporeal' as regarding their source. Only God has the ability to cause the incorporeal to become attached to the corporeal; of course God delegated a portion of His power, to make such attachment, over to man, in order for man to be more like God in exercising mans' creative ability. Yet, God also restricted the mans' use of such delegated power. Many of the concepts we conjure, cannot be accomplished (forming a flesh and blood body from the soil, as an example) because God knows what man would do should man be permitted to execute such a concept.

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Summa Ratio est quae pro Religione facit.
If ever the laws of God and man are at variance, the former are to be obeyed in derogation of the latter.

'Many are the plans in a man's heart,
but it's the Lord's purpose that prevails."
Proverbs 19:21.

"The most important office in a democracy is the office of citizen."
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:58 PM
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taking someone elses stuff and distributing without the creator's consent is theft - that is a violation of God's law

Hi Weis, I already said this in my last post which is why I wouldn't do it. I cannot violate God's law.

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also, you may be violating the 2nd commandment by making a God to suit yourself ( i.e. "My God" thinks that uploading someone else's property w/o their consent isn't theft)

Well, I can't really violate it because I never claimed that God said it was ok to steal, I don't think any of the major religions says that. Just look at my post and you'll see.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:02 PM
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private property is imaginary

Only fools say that this is mine or that is mine, when in reality, it is ALL His. (God's)

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