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Eric William's Approach - Political Jurisdiction
Taken from; no-drivers-license@yahoogroups.com
Eric's (Williams) approach is simple, and 'so far' works well. My traffic case, hearing/trial was cancelled without my 'appearing' by my continued correspondence with persecutor saying I could not 'appear' as a fiction but would comply by 'presenting' my flesh and blood entity at their fictional political entity IF he provided PROOF of fictional political jurisdiction. Each piece of mail from the court [presumeably summons, etc.] I wrote "Refused for Cause-No fictional political jurisdiction-Return to Sender" on the envelope and put back in mail.
In my letters I told him, "Governments do not exist in nature," I didn't know when I was born, no SSN, etc. He threatened a warrant, and I wrote back that if I was arrested absent proof of jurisdiction, I would file criminal charges against ALL for a criminal conspiracy of kidnapping...
SO FAR, those who have raised the issue of POLITICAL jurisdiction, not filed papers, and held the perps to this issue and walked out because there was no response from perps have not been arrested or charged with contempt.
Think about it... If you don't file anything, present your physical body and "Raise the ISSUE of political jurisdiction, that you are not 'appearing'" until they prove such, they have NO AUTHORITY to do anything.
To file documents is to just get them "denied." To answer ANY questions as
Are you employed?
I am not employed, nor am I employable, but I work.
Are you a resident of the State of Arizona?
No, I'm not a resident at all, but I live in Arizona State.
...is to waive jurisdiction.
Better to respond by saying,
"The fact that you are asking me questions is evidence you have no proof of political jurisdiction in your file."
Judge has no AUTHORITY to require you answer, or do anything else, absent jurisdiction.
Since the perps use different definitions, Mitchell above, should have asked questions back, if not pressing jurisdiction issue...
"What do you mean by employed?" "What is a resident?" "How does one become a resident?" "Is every one living in Arizona a resident?" "Are there exceptions?" "Do you have evidence that I am employed, or a resident of Arizona?"
The perps need a date of birth, birth certificate, etc. Nobody, including you, Dane, 'know' when you were born. You were too young to know, at birth, to apply for a birth certificate, so you didn't get one. Nobody, 'knows' who their father or mother are/were.
If you choose to answer these kinds of questions, you can honestly answer, "I don't know" or "How would I know?" Semantics? Yes. Isn't that what the perps do? It's ALL semantics.
We don't AFFIRM or DENY anything. They have to prove without our help!
If Hizzoner asks questions dealing with jurisdiction, he has violated his oath by violating HIS separation of powers doctrine and is disqualified. It is the perp prosecutors job to prove jurisdiction not the judge. Tell him so.
Don't forget an issue I mentioned in earlier post... the13th Amendment against INvoluntary servitude. Can they prove we volunteered to be subject to the US? NO!!! Unless we willingly, knowingly, intentionally being fully informed of the consequences volunteered into their political jurisdiction, they don't have it and cannot prove we did!!!
All of this is a simpler, and more effective approach.
hp
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11-20-2006, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ezrhythm
Taken from; no-drivers-license@yahoogroups.com
Eric's (Williams) approach is simple, and 'so far' works well. My traffic case, hearing/trial was cancelled without my 'appearing' by my continued correspondence with persecutor saying I could not 'appear' as a fiction but would comply by 'presenting' my flesh and blood entity at their fictional political entity IF he provided PROOF of fictional political jurisdiction. Each piece of mail from the court [presumeably summons, etc.] I wrote "Refused for Cause-No fictional political jurisdiction-Return to Sender" on the envelope and put back in mail.
In my letters I told him, "Governments do not exist in nature," I didn't know when I was born, no SSN, etc. He threatened a warrant, and I wrote back that if I was arrested absent proof of jurisdiction, I would file criminal charges against ALL for a criminal conspiracy of kidnapping...
SO FAR, those who have raised the issue of POLITICAL jurisdiction, not filed papers, and held the perps to this issue and walked out because there was no response from perps have not been arrested or charged with contempt.
Think about it... If you don't file anything, present your physical body and "Raise the ISSUE of political jurisdiction, that you are not 'appearing'" until they prove such, they have NO AUTHORITY to do anything.
To file documents is to just get them "denied." To answer ANY questions as
Are you employed? I am not employed, nor am I employable, but I work.
Are you a resident of the State of Arizona?
No, I'm not a resident at all, but I live in Arizona State.
...is to waive jurisdiction.
Better to respond by saying,
"The fact that you are asking me questions is evidence you have no proof of political jurisdiction in your file."
Judge has no AUTHORITY to require you answer, or do anything else, absent jurisdiction.
Since the perps use different definitions, Mitchell above, should have asked questions back, if not pressing jurisdiction issue...
"What do you mean by employed?" "What is a resident?" "How does one become a resident?" "Is every one living in Arizona a resident?" "Are there exceptions?" "Do you have evidence that I am employed, or a resident of Arizona?"
The perps need a date of birth, birth certificate, etc. Nobody, including you, Dane, 'know' when you were born. You were too young to know, at birth, to apply for a birth certificate, so you didn't get one. Nobody, 'knows' who their father or mother are/were.
If you choose to answer these kinds of questions, you can honestly answer, "I don't know" or "How would I know?" Semantics? Yes. Isn't that what the perps do? It's ALL semantics.
We don't AFFIRM or DENY anything. They have to prove without our help!
If Hizzoner asks questions dealing with jurisdiction, he has violated his oath by violating HIS separation of powers doctrine and is disqualified. It is the perp prosecutors job to prove jurisdiction not the judge. Tell him so.
Don't forget an issue I mentioned in earlier post... the13th Amendment against INvoluntary servitude. Can they prove we volunteered to be subject to the US? NO!!! Unless we willingly, knowingly, intentionally being fully informed of the consequences volunteered into their political jurisdiction, they don't have it and cannot prove we did!!!
All of this is a simpler, and more effective approach.
hp
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This is excellent and kinda funi too!
When I read the mention of "Hizzoner" i immediately thought of Ed Koch, Hizzoner of Nyc
in the 80s -- lol dont blaspheme his Kochiness.
Some passing thoughts:
Where's the warrant for a (verbal) search of your mind?
as for asking about birth, etc, one could have fun and say "ask my mommy".
Or, You could mess their game plan up and say something like,
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Originally Posted by me having fun
Excuse me, I only speak the King's English; I do NOT comprehend why you are speaking a foreign language to me.
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11-21-2006, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ezrhythm
Taken from; no-drivers-license@yahoogroups.com
Eric's (Williams) approach is simple, and 'so far' works well. My traffic case, hearing/trial was cancelled without my 'appearing' by my continued correspondence with persecutor saying I could not 'appear' as a fiction but would comply by 'presenting' my flesh and blood entity at their fictional political entity IF he provided PROOF of fictional political jurisdiction. Each piece of mail from the court [presumeably summons, etc.] I wrote "Refused for Cause-No fictional political jurisdiction-Return to Sender" on the envelope and put back in mail.
In my letters I told him, "Governments do not exist in nature," I didn't know when I was born, no SSN, etc. He threatened a warrant, and I wrote back that if I was arrested absent proof of jurisdiction, I would file criminal charges against ALL for a criminal conspiracy of kidnapping...
SO FAR, those who have raised the issue of POLITICAL jurisdiction, not filed papers, and held the perps to this issue and walked out because there was no response from perps have not been arrested or charged with contempt.
Think about it... If you don't file anything, present your physical body and "Raise the ISSUE of political jurisdiction, that you are not 'appearing'" until they prove such, they have NO AUTHORITY to do anything.
To file documents is to just get them "denied." To answer ANY questions as
Are you employed?
I am not employed, nor am I employable, but I work.
Are you a resident of the State of Arizona?
No, I'm not a resident at all, but I live in Arizona State.
...is to waive jurisdiction.
Better to respond by saying,
"The fact that you are asking me questions is evidence you have no proof of political jurisdiction in your file."
Judge has no AUTHORITY to require you answer, or do anything else, absent jurisdiction.
Since the perps use different definitions, Mitchell above, should have asked questions back, if not pressing jurisdiction issue...
"What do you mean by employed?" "What is a resident?" "How does one become a resident?" "Is every one living in Arizona a resident?" "Are there exceptions?" "Do you have evidence that I am employed, or a resident of Arizona?"
The perps need a date of birth, birth certificate, etc. Nobody, including you, Dane, 'know' when you were born. You were too young to know, at birth, to apply for a birth certificate, so you didn't get one. Nobody, 'knows' who their father or mother are/were.
If you choose to answer these kinds of questions, you can honestly answer, "I don't know" or "How would I know?" Semantics? Yes. Isn't that what the perps do? It's ALL semantics.
We don't AFFIRM or DENY anything. They have to prove without our help!
If Hizzoner asks questions dealing with jurisdiction, he has violated his oath by violating HIS separation of powers doctrine and is disqualified. It is the perp prosecutors job to prove jurisdiction not the judge. Tell him so.
Don't forget an issue I mentioned in earlier post... the13th Amendment against INvoluntary servitude. Can they prove we volunteered to be subject to the US? NO!!! Unless we willingly, knowingly, intentionally being fully informed of the consequences volunteered into their political jurisdiction, they don't have it and cannot prove we did!!!
All of this is a simpler, and more effective approach.
hp
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Good finding, and excellent commentary.
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11-21-2006, 06:30 AM
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11-21-2006, 06:54 AM
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O yea that is the way it is. Put the vampire on notice.
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12-06-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HenryBowman
It could be a double edged sword opening mail addressed to the STRAWMAN, and then saying (as the true name) that they don't have jurisdiction.
Prima facie goes a long way.
But I LOVE Eric Williams approach. I call it Jurisdictional Kung Fu.
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Henry,
Looked up 'attorney' and 'at large' in my Black's (6th) and had a nice laugh, very cool..
On that same thought, why would you not be able to open mail, correspond with other 'persons', pay bills, etc? What if you paid your mom's cellphone bill for her one month while she was on vacation or signed for or opened an official letter or package addressed to your wife or father? You are a flesh and blood human being acting on behalf of a corporation, trust, llc or other corporate person. I am trying to get 'mail' out of my name, all bills, etc so this is not an issue. I dont own a car, a trust does and they make the payment, I dont have utilities or a cell phone, a company does and they make the payment, etc. Better for privacy too..
Cheers,
Thom
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12-07-2006, 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by Henry Bowman
It could be a double edged sword opening mail addressed to the STRAWMAN, and then saying (as the true name) that they don't have jurisdiction.
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Use the elusive STRAWMAN to your advantage. Everthing that is delivered to your mailbox is your property, which includes all pseudonyms of your true name. Affirmatively take possession of those pseudonyms as a property right rather than accepting them as a surety. Erroneous presumptions will now be laid to rest.
When corresponding with vermin, inform them that you hold the property rights to that pseudonym and inquire whether the communication was misaddressed. Demand to be properly addressed in future communication. Since they have now been noticed, they have no standing in any proceeding against you. They could in fact be liable for a tort action for unauthorized use (theft) of your property.
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