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Old 01-02-2007, 05:39 AM
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Hi Friends

Have not gotten a ticket yet with this on my dash, and i believe there has been opportunities

I am thinking of adding an enforcement clause like ' Attempts to impose contract is liable to strict fines or imprisonment '

Parking Facilities – Uniform Commercial Code

PARKING PERMIT EXEMPTION FOR W.A

WITHOUT PREJUDICE - Uniform Commercial Code 1-207/1-308 I reserve my right not to be compelled to perform under any contract or commercial agreement that I did not enter knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally. And, furthermore, I do not accept the liability of the compelled benefit of any un-revealed contract or commercial agreement.

I DO NOT CONTRACT. NON-ASSUMPSIT. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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Old 01-02-2007, 04:52 PM
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There's no compelling argument that suggests the issuer of the ticket or towing vehicle operator will see or read (let alone attempt to understand the meaning of) such a notice.

The fact that the alleged "notice" contained on the piece of paper on your dashboard is legally meaningless won't help much, either.

You might as well write "please tow my car away" in really big letters.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:42 PM
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Hi Friends

Have not gotten a ticket yet with this on my dash, and i believe there has been opportunities

I am thinking of adding an enforcement clause like ' Attempts to impose contract is liable to strict fines or imprisonment '

Parking Facilities – Uniform Commercial Code

PARKING PERMIT EXEMPTION FOR W.A

WITHOUT PREJUDICE - Uniform Commercial Code 1-207/1-308 I reserve my right not to be compelled to perform under any contract or commercial agreement that I did not enter knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally. And, furthermore, I do not accept the liability of the compelled benefit of any un-revealed contract or commercial agreement.

I DO NOT CONTRACT. NON-ASSUMPSIT. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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Have you read the UCC? Tell me who is the subject of section 1-308? Is it a person? If so what is person defined as in the code? How is "party" defined in the code?

I will tell you this... The uniform commercial code ONLY applies to remedies for corporations. Your use of it in a private matter shows the lack of research put into such a statement/notice.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:51 PM
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Have you read the UCC? Tell me who is the subject of section 1-308? Is it a person? If so what is person defined as in the code? How is "party" defined in the code?

From the website UCC code "Person" means an individual, corporation, business trust, estate, trust, partnership, limited liability company, association, joint venture, government, governmental subdivision, agency, or instrumentality, public corporation, or any other legal or commercial entity. "

Sounds like the code says it applies for individuals as well, not to mention that our laws cement the reality of the strawman, look at this quote from our Australian acts interpretation act -

"expressions used to denote persons generally (such as “person”, “party”, “someone”, “anyone”, “no one”, “one”, “another” and “whoever”), include a body politic or corporate as well as an individual;"

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I will tell you this... The uniform commercial code ONLY applies to remedies for corporations. Your use of it in a private matter shows the lack of research put into such a statement/notice.

Doesn't the code mention individuals and other such legal parties? I have heard success with other individuals in this matter, so I am willing to use it. If there is so much lack of research into this notice than what would be a better method?

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There's no compelling argument that suggests the issuer of the ticket or towing vehicle operator will see or read (let alone attempt to understand the meaning of) such a notice.

Maybe, but if he tows my car on a local government authorization, which they acknowledge arent even legally recognized, I am not going to silently agree to that

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The fact that the alleged "notice" contained on the piece of paper on your dashboard is legally meaningless won't help much, either.

What about the legal meaning of the signs that are put there by a local government that is a) not constitutionally recognized b) was voted against in a people's referendum -which is a firm method of law change here c) is just a private corporation

You might as well write "please tow my car away" in really big letters.

Welll what is the solution then? Do I not have more legal standing than a fraudulent and deceptive local government ? Is legal meaning pretending to have authority than acting as you do? I am already involved with a case of conditionally accepting my local property rates if they can prove that they are legally entitled to it, no answer yet

If a fraudulent phony government can put us on notice than a lawful individual surely can
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:28 PM
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Hey All...

I have been traveling since April 2004 with a simple statement on my auto... Nevada Registered no.( insert UCC FS number) and in bold letters across the bottom
PRIVATE NOT FOR HIRE. Three separate lines.

My auto has been registered in the past I let it expire and put on my sign.

No tickets for parking (even at meters right in front of the court house, and no tickets for registration.

It's all about commerce you are either in commerce and driving, or you are taking care of personal business and traveling.

No need for a lot of other proclamations that none of the worker bees understand or care about. That is for you to tell them after they contact you.

The best thing to say if you are contacted by the popo is, Oh the vehicle I use for capital gains on the highways is licensed and registered... this auto is for personal business. AND remember when they ask you if you are a constitutionalist tell them "I don't even know what a constitutionalist is and You are the one who took the oath". It gets 'em every time!!!!

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Old 03-11-2007, 08:00 PM
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Thanks. Good job, Kitchie.
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:48 AM
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Kitchie;
Thanks for your input and information.

Nice to see you posting here again.Please don't be a stranger.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:36 AM
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Hey All...

I have been traveling since April 2004 with a simple statement on my auto... Nevada Registered no.( insert UCC FS number) and in bold letters across the bottom
PRIVATE NOT FOR HIRE. Three separate lines.

My auto has been registered in the past I let it expire and put on my sign.

No tickets for parking (even at meters right in front of the court house, and no tickets for registration.

It's all about commerce you are either in commerce and driving, or you are taking care of personal business and traveling.

No need for a lot of other proclamations that none of the worker bees understand or care about. That is for you to tell them after they contact you.

The best thing to say if you are contacted by the popo is, Oh the vehicle I use for capital gains on the highways is licensed and registered... this auto is for personal business. AND remember when they ask you if you are a constitutionalist tell them "I don't even know what a constitutionalist is and You are the one who took the oath". It gets 'em every time!!!!

Kitchie



Thank you for your post. I would like to do this for my auto in Massachusetts. What does FS stand for?
Did you by chance ever see a cop or parking enforcement see the expired meter and look at your "plate" and simply walk away? If I do this, I am afraid they might just call the police there and tow the car. What about the VIN number? Should it be covered up? Thanks in advance!
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:56 PM
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Hey All...

I have been traveling since April 2004 with a simple statement on my auto... Nevada Registered no.( insert UCC FS number) and in bold letters across the bottom
PRIVATE NOT FOR HIRE. Three separate lines.

My auto has been registered in the past I let it expire and put on my sign.

No tickets for parking (even at meters right in front of the court house, and no tickets for registration.

It's all about commerce you are either in commerce and driving, or you are taking care of personal business and traveling.

No need for a lot of other proclamations that none of the worker bees understand or care about. That is for you to tell them after they contact you.

The best thing to say if you are contacted by the popo is, Oh the vehicle I use for capital gains on the highways is licensed and registered... this auto is for personal business. AND remember when they ask you if you are a constitutionalist tell them "I don't even know what a constitutionalist is and You are the one who took the oath". It gets 'em every time!!!!

Kitchie

You are so full of **** it makes me laugh.

You actually think that they teach an un-sworn traffic cop the ins and outs of driving for commerce versus driving privately?

Oh... man that is rich.

You have taken an oath... In California (The most populated state) parking officers are almost NEVER sworn and they take NO OATH!

Your research is just nice sounding. I have seen people go the wrong way down the one way street in front of my court house and I have never seen one given a ticket.

Your presumption is based on assumption and the whole thing reaks of bull**** and bull**** theory.

Just let me know when you get a ticket, and argue in court that it must be quashed.

Better yet let me know once you get your car towed and haulled away and you get it back free and clear because of your do***entaion. (Since the cops all know...)

You really think that they teach this **** to hundreds of employees in every city/county.

OMFG!
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There's no compelling argument that suggests the issuer of the ticket or towing vehicle operator will see or read (let alone attempt to understand the meaning of) such a notice.

The fact that the alleged "notice" contained on the piece of paper on your dashboard is legally meaningless won't help much, either.

You might as well write "please tow my car away" in really big letters.

Agreed! Thanks JRB
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