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Old 03-12-2008, 07:15 PM
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No problem, Glad I could help, although still in the learning curve, but everyday is an adventure in this matrix of webs. I'll keep everyone posted with my results, I'm sure things will get interesting soon.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:15 PM
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opps double post sorry.

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Old 03-12-2008, 10:05 PM
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Coupon Situation...

I've gotten used to using the 1040-V (IRS Payment Voucher) and the Concerning Fiduiciary Relationship (the IRS form 56) having the U.S. (Corp.) Treasury "acting" as the fiduiciary appointed. Send a copy the orginal to the IRS, copys to the treasury and company with the "coupon".

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The components were still there for authorization to redeem. It is the same old story... the bankers will not say that this suitor owes any money. That would be testimony on a Statement.



There seems to be a clever turn though. The attorneys are pulling an implied consent on $5 withdrawn from the bank account - which should of course be refused for cause properly. That is to say, with full cognizance of the US.

I still disagree with pushing the redemption of the coupon on the "lender" by contacting the Treasury for them. That is their business with the Treasury.

This suitor is fully aware and experienced with the Refusal for Cause process, using a federal case jacket to secure the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US. The Statement is exactly that, a Statement. It is a Statement from the "lender" saying that there is no balance due...

However they have asked consent to "levy" the account by $5 in hopes that this consent may be utilized later - maybe to clean out the entire account or another account. I would never give my acquiescence for random withdrawals - even for $5 and suggest this suitor not - R4C immediately. Recall that the original suitor on this thread had a few bucks charged, including a $5 fee and some miscellaneous service charges under $50 total...

He authorized redemption on that as a subsequent coupon.



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Old 03-15-2008, 03:14 AM
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Interesting approach Grench;

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I've gotten used to using the 1040-V (IRS Payment Voucher) and the Concerning Fiduiciary Relationship (the IRS form 56) having the U.S. (Corp.) Treasury "acting" as the fiduiciary appointed. Send a copy the orginal to the IRS, copys to the treasury and company with the "coupon".

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Here is a typical report.

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Hello David, Long time, I wanted to ask you, would you have time to help me draft a case...Not that I am trying to get a lot of paper, I just want back the credit that was stolen, my trade name to be cleared and to be left alone. I have given a proper set off and closure to the accounting. Thanks in advance, let me know.

So now the suitors can utilize the default judgment from the Libel of Review to clean up credit too. Once they have the tacit admission of double-enrichment, they have blatant admission no debt existed to begin with.

www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/P1.jpg
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www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/P3.jpg
www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/P4.jpg



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:00 PM
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Certified copy of Credit river?

Grench, D.M. or anyonelse,


know of a document recording # for Credit River descision in Cook County Recorders? As I had, in the past, mistakenly filed the certified copy from the original Minnesota jurisdiction in my various cases only to be ignored. (maybe I could resurrect with oath default and lien)

The reason I ask is because it would cost less than half to get a copy than to file it and get a certified copy, as I have very few US notes in the form of FRN left right now.

However, other than marks on credit file the credit card companies pretty much left me alone, after they wrote the account off.

I have taken a beating in areas of real propety though.
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:34 PM
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Update

Here is a short update on the progress of my CC redemptions, I have done 8 to date, 2 were chase, I have had only one credit the account, it was chase, then the next statement they added it back on under,
(purchases, cash, debits) which brought my balance back to where it was previously, one of the cards are WAMU, they are totally ignoring the coupon, it has been 3 statements thus far, but what I don't see happening is any legal action on their part, I am getting a lot of phone calls and written correspondants from several diff. nasty collection corps. and the card co. themself, that just talk to the machine, I have R4C, the mail, that was not sent back does not reside here, but what I think I may do is answer these calls and make it clear to them they have a certain amount of time to comply or the demand I have made will be handed to the correct officials, and they can deal with them, or put it writing and send it to them, This has been going on for 4 months now and that is plenty of time for them, they have already dishonered my coupon redemption on their part.

If anyone has any better suggestions I'm open.
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:02 PM
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Great job. There seems to be a lot of focus on evading culpability with bank attorneys lately.

I've also been doing battle with 2 seperate banks (Chase and Wachovia). A recent positive update on my part was the cancellation of the repo order they had issued for my trucks. I am still awaiting the zero balance statements from them. Once my fat lady has sung, I will post the full detail of the war from beginning to end.

Their only "defense" is to evade. So always have all documents notarized. Attached certificates of mailing to each piece with postage and roundate. Note the registered mail number on each certificate of mailing and them make copies at the coin op machine before sealing and sending via REGISTERED Mail with return receipt.

I filed a formal complaint with the Federal Reserve board of Governers and The Treasury Dept for each bank about their initial claim that I didn't send them anything but yet I had proof that they received it. Round one didn't use a notary or have the certificates of mailing attached and roundated to the documents themselves.

After re-sending all documents via notary, I sent each of them a letter basically stating that I would commence litgation against their company for damages plus any punitive damages that the court might permit under such ridiculous circumstances if they didn't honor and resolve the matter.

I cc'd the complaints and sent the letter to the executive offices of each bank. This address can be found in the quarterly SEC filings from the EDGAR database. Don't deal with underlings... go straight to executive management. Most lower bank employees don't know U.C.C. section 3 & 4 stuff.. the execs do.. and know the penalties. Don't back down.

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Old 04-25-2008, 07:49 AM
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Thank you David for your previous answer. I'm grateful for your kindness. It'll keep me busy for some time it looks like.

In reviewing old post I came upon this one. something I'm sure you've had a tremendous number of questions on. If you've already answered this, I apologize and confess I just plain missed your answer. If this is so, just state so and I'll search again.
QUESTION:
Why the stamp? I noticed it is a $1 fox stamp in 2 places. . . why 2 places?
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:34 PM
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Thank you David for your previous answer. I'm grateful for your kindness. It'll keep me busy for some time it looks like.

In reviewing old post I came upon this one. something I'm sure you've had a tremendous number of questions on. If you've already answered this, I apologize and confess I just plain missed your answer. If this is so, just state so and I'll search again.
QUESTION:
Why the stamp? I noticed it is a $1 fox stamp in 2 places. . . why 2 places?
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Actually some of the suitors and even members here have researched that out more than I. There is a possibly true myth that the Fox Stamp is special in that it specifies the $ with two bars? This is a custom for US dollars rather than FRNs. I have my doubts because as they phased out the Fox Stamp they must have replaced it with this requirement by law...

Anybody know about this?

The UPU is the Universal Postal Union formed by the UN. And it has an international charter within which something is specified about the Seal of the Postmaster and some folks have deduced from the UPU charter that signing a stamp in certain circumstances is some kind of sovereign posture as postmaster?

I have not really developed much research around this. But I have attached the UPU charter here and maybe somebody can post some leads for us to pick up?

What Trooper calls attached Certificate of Mailing can be done by affixing $1.05 in postage to all the document copies prior to putting into the Registered Mailing envelope(s). Have the postal clerk cancel all these and even check that all copies are identical. If he suspects you are representing them to be identical mailings and sees something fishy, he should bring a postal inspector to check into it. Registered is better oriented around the contents than certified - certified is more a culpability dodge when it gets in the hands of attorneys in black robes - (Well, all you have proven here is you mailed something...). One suitor worked it out with her postmaster and the regulations that a copy of the Certificate of Mailing form suffices and so she supplied us with the .pdf file attached.




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David Merrill.
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html

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Old 04-25-2008, 08:20 PM
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Two 2 fox

Thanks again David. Is there no answer for why two fox stamps were used? j
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