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Old 10-16-2007, 07:28 PM
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CTC is BAD NEWS

Their procedure requires you signing (under perjury) IRS forms

anytime that is involved, you want to steer clear of it (i.e. filling out ANY US gov form - especially ones w/a perjury statement !!)

You've been warned

People have been posting here for YEARS saying that they are in the process of it AND HAVE NOT POSTED A SUCCESS
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:40 AM
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Weishaupt and I seldom agree, so this is significant:
Cracking The Code brings nothing but trouble.
The publishers were recently nailed under a statute that criminalizes fraudulent tax shelters; they've been ordered to stop printing or selling their book. They were also ordered to provide the IRS with a list of the book's purchasers, but this order is under appeal.
There have already been court cases in which CTC was named explicitly and the people who were relying on it went down to very painful defeats.
If there's any good advice in the book, it's hidden under a haystack of very bad advice.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:47 AM
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Weishaupt and I seldom agree, so this is significant:
Cracking The Code brings nothing but trouble.
The publishers were recently nailed under a statute that criminalizes fraudulent tax shelters; they've been ordered to stop printing or selling their book. They were also ordered to provide the IRS with a list of the book's purchasers, but this order is under appeal.
There have already been court cases in which CTC was named explicitly and the people who were relying on it went down to very painful defeats.
If there's any good advice in the book, it's hidden under a haystack of very bad advice.
While I agree w/ your analysis of CTC, it's also important to reiterate that the only people committing criminal fraud here is the IRS itself. Requesting the names of the people purchasing the book? Is this Soviet Amerika?

Where is the American Spirit?

The Founders would be amashed of us...

An illegitimate "taxing" agency (in fact, an offshore private corporation) engaging in these kinds of abuses would long since have impelled the Founders to revolt.

I blame the flouride in the water supply.
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:57 PM
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Weishaupt and I seldom agree, so this is significant:
I agree that it isn't wise to sign the IRS documents. That is why I choose not to sign IRS forms.

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Originally Posted by Connally v. General Const. Co., 269 US 385
...a statute which either forbids or requires the doing of an act in terms so vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application violates the first essential of due process of law.
Who has read and understood the 3,413,780 (Hendrickson) word monstrosity that is the IRS Code? Of course, this doesn't include all of the regulation that may be related to the Code.

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Cracking The Code brings nothing but trouble.
Sure, because the theves in power do not want their ill-gotten gains curtailed.

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The publishers were recently nailed under a statute that criminalizes fraudulent tax shelters; they've been ordered to stop printing or selling their book.
Here we go with the book banning routine, which tyrants love so much.

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They were also ordered to provide the IRS with a list of the book's purchasers,
Why does the IRS need a list of the book's purchasers? This sounds like an intimidation tactic, like the thought police.

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but this order is under appeal.
Good.

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There have already been court cases in which CTC was named explicitly and the people who were relying on it went down to very painful defeats.
If there's any good advice in the book, it's hidden under a haystack of very bad advice.
The book gives Hendrickson's views, not advice.

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Finally, nothing in this book should be construed or relied upon as particular advice or instructions for any particular reader. Each reader must make his or her own independent determination of how the nature, meaning and application of any law affects himself or herself. CTC, pg. vi
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:18 PM
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Good post BobT12.

It is unfortunate that the lower "courts" (so called) do not, as a habit, recognize "Supreme Court" (so called) "opinions" such as the one you quoted.

Of course the function of these "Federal" "DISTRICT" "courts" (private for-profit speculative investment corporations) is to protect the corporate interests of the thugs who are the "enforcers" for war financiers who are propping up the foreign occupation junta, which rules the population by propaganda, economic sanction, fomenting and manipulating "class warfare," etc., and, ultimately, by the minute-to-minute 24/7/365 ("and twice on Sundays") application of armed force by a multitude of mercenary corporate municipal troops.

It is also noteworthy that the so-called "Supreme Court" seems to consider much of what you, and others allude to as being outside their "Constitutional" purview and to be addressed by the legislative Powers, (so-called) while the legislative Powers (the soviet, or Reich, take your pick), claims that it is a matter for the judicial Power (rubber stamp of the so called "executive Power," see Supreme Court Rule 45) to "decide."
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SUPREME COURT OF THE U.S. - RULES
..Part VIII. Disposition of Cases
Rule 45. Process; Mandates

1. All process of this Court issues in the name of the President of the United States.

So much for any so-called "separation of powers" doctrine.

Nice little racket they have going for themselves.

The mafia would be envious.

In fact, I think the mafia is a bit envious.
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/26-Sept-2007.html

I digress, sorry.


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Originally Posted by psholtz
While I agree w/ your analysis of CTC, it's also important to reiterate that the only people committing criminal fraud here is the IRS itself.

Requesting the names of the people purchasing the book?

Is this Soviet Amerika?

Where is the American Spirit?

The Founders would be [ashamed] of us...

An illegitimate "taxing" agency (in fact, an offshore private corporation) engaging in these kinds of abuses would long since have impelled the Founders to revolt.

I blame the flouride in the water supply.

And now the junta are spraying more "aluminum" "by-products" into the air to deflect the harmful radiation of the sun from whence it came in order to help with the "global warming" problem?

Its ALL for our own good, don't you know?

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