Successfully avoiding a vehicle search!

[David Merrill]

That is of course why I love this place.

Back up there to Farmer though; I consider the Certificate of Search as sayingnn - Failure to state a clnnaim for which rnnelief can be granted in the same form as Rule 12 FRCP.

Combine that with the big biker who backs his ole pickup truck into the pretty blond behind him just to get her address. The law provides all she is required to do is write her name on a piece of paper and that suffices as ID even in Cold Reporting conditions.

So get the Certificate of Search in your true name and be certain that you say, I have no DOB when asked. If you provide the State astrologer a triangulation by way of a second witness/testimony against yourself and that is all the prima facie evidence you are the private credit chattel Farmer is talking about.

There are several fun models in these posts above. One of them is to reduce the true name to agent of the legal name and that smacks of UCC redemption, Strawman stuff. My opinion is that is all very insideous because it works so airtight in theory but slides into equity as soon as the law starts to acquit.

The I choose not to contract will much more likely get you into Booking - best to express that sentiment to the Chief with a timely R4C.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Stay out of their courts.

A republican form of government means a republic.

In a republic the administration of affairs is open to all Citizens©.

A court is a republican institution where affairs are administered.

You must administer your affairs of court yourself or waive this right.

When you invoke a court you must assert your jurisdiction to hold it and cannot let the judge usurp your judicial power.

This means you do not pay an attorney fee to him to conduct your court, you do not submit do***ents to him for his approval, you do not motion him to move your court, you deny everything he has tried to file and you strike anything that he has attempted to enter of record.

He will not like you.

You are not trying to make friends with him.

Without the judge you can eject attorneys and enter your own orders including a declaratory judgment if no other party appears for court in person.

If a few of us do this we can be hunted down and exterminated.

If thousands of us do this it may succeed.

I'm telling you how to fight but not promising victory.

About that attachment of the
Driver License©:

The border at the bottom looks strangely familiar.

I just happen to have an FRN in my pocket.

The border at the bottom looks strangely familiar.

[mrg]

About that attachment of the
Driver License©:

The border at the bottom looks strangely familiar.

I just happen to have an FRN in my pocket.

The border at the bottom looks strangely familiar.

[artificialsteve]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.


If they point to the DL and ask "Is this you?" keep in mind that unless you are a piece of plastic with a photo and artwork on it and a bunch of cryptic glyphs on it then weigh the merits of saying yes carefully if not prayerfully.


I do not have any driver license or ID issued by any State of the United States. My inalienable right to travel brings an implied license with it. I have the right to transport my own possessions or property on the public highways or on the common ways. Because a State paves my paths for its own convenience does not give the State the right to tell me what I can or cannot do on those paths.



Stay out of their courts.

I called my state for instructions on Canceling/ending my drivers license privilege. When asked why, i simply responded: "I am not satisfied with the services this company provides."
They actually told me that 'it is impossible'. So I asked her if she was making a legal determination on behalf of McAllum Licensing Agency, or if not, which government entities laws she was referring to. Of course, this led to more smalltalk, and eventually she told me that she would send me the email of the legal counsel I was supposed to contact about 'that'.....never got that email, folks.

So how did you do it?? Or, what legal docs did you utilize, if any, which you use as proof of your retaining the right to travel, vs. being 'not active in the licensing system'??
I hope I am not asking

[artificialsteve]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.
First thing you can say is: "I do not wish to contract with you." (Verbal R4C) That pretty much kills a lot of presumptions.

Yeah, that is a good starting sentence for sure! Wow, I really need to simplify all of these legal defenses into really short, straightforward statements such as that.

what about "I do not consent to this conversation?" I like the abovementioned one even more, though.

[artificialsteve]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

If you have drugs or other contraband in the car, you're up a creek either way (but maybe it's the end of the shift or something and they let you go rather than search).

OK, let's get real here.
Q: Why is it that every time I have a success, someone has to use this one?? Hmm? MAYBE I actually succeeded in outsmarting the authorities? Perhaps you don't share in my joy, hmmm?

[artificialsteve]

Originally Posted by farmer_giles_of_ham

Granted all of the above- what is the net effect?

The state still retains jurisdiction over the use of the roads, and that means exposure to fines and other penalties.

with a BoE...then the whole thing becomes largely moot.

I call your bluff or ignorance about this one. How can the state retain jurisdiction over a bunch of concrete, unless it had a way for real people to perpetuate that idea/burden through example, voluntarily showing that they are a 'club member' and the like.
2. So the whole thing becomes moot, huh? You speak from experience about this one? If so, please explain, so we can all learn from your mistake? I'm also assuming you were using all available methods, not just the ones 'they' told you were available,...

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.
To knowledge, a business card suffices as identification. You arent required to give them your name just tell it to them. If someone asks "May I have your name?" I'd reply "No I like my name I want to keep it. But I can tell you what it is."

Interestingly, starting at 11:03 yesterday this thread will not update on my computer unless I quote a Post like I have done. Then I can see my Post and the subsequent discussion... just mentioning it because I have never seen that happen. My purpose is to see if responding to a quote will bring the full thread back into normal view.


That worked; for whatever reason Page 5 would not come into view.

Assuming you are a polite poster ArtificialSteve, you are attempting to add heated debate for interesting reading:

Originally Posted by artificialsteve

I call your bluff or ignorance about this one. How can the state retain jurisdiction over a bunch of concrete, unless it had a way for real people to perpetuate that idea/burden through example, voluntarily showing that they are a 'club member' and the like.

2. So the whole thing becomes moot, huh? You speak from experience about this one? If so, please explain, so we can all learn from your mistake? I'm also assuming you were using all available methods, not just the ones 'they' told you were available,...

I took Farmer's remark about the law of trust to be along the lines Harmon L. Taylor spouts (attached). And its explanation of the remedy clearly scribed for the elastic currency of the Fed - Title 12 U.S.C. §411.

According to the law of contracts, you are removed from the State of's Religion/Church.

For example, let's not focus on what was in the officers' minds as they chose not to search your vehicle. We would need to be mindreaders for that. Let's focus on your subsequent sacred worship of their papers.

Did you abate the process? Did you Refuse for Cause? Did the citation - Summons and Complaint and Uniform Penalty Assessment or whatever bond agreement took place cite a State Revised Statute by Code #? Would you mind showing us a scan of that?



Regards,

David Merrill.

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

The law provides all she is required to do is write her name on a piece of paper and that suffices as ID even in Cold Reporting conditions.

Pretty much.

So get the Certificate of Search in your true name and be certain that you say, I have no DOB when asked. If you provide the State astrologer a triangulation by way of a second witness/testimony against yourself and that is all the prima facie evidence you are the private credit chattel Farmer is talking about.

Yeah he might figure you were consulting with the State astrologer for figuring out with you were "born" since that would be one conceivable way you could "clearly remember" something that may have happened when you and mommy were hardly coherent. Perhaps there is a fee to be paid (and incompetence presumed) for them doing something like sewing your name and address inside your coat FOR YOU like mommy so that you dont forget who you are in case you get lost.

There are several fun models in these posts above. One of them is to reduce the true name to agent of the legal name and that smacks of UCC redemption, Strawman stuff. My opinion is that is all very insideous because it works so airtight in theory but slides into equity as soon as the law starts to acquit.

Re: True Name, as Agent.

True Name isn't the agent. True Name would act *as* the agent. Nothing to do with UCC redemption. Same stuff is in the UK-esque Bill of Exchange Acts saying if someone signs and doenst make it clear that they arent acting in an agent or representative capacity then they can presume that you are taking full liability. John dba JOHN SMITH is basically John as JOHN SMITH. Quite similar in efect. Besides, the DL is in equity anyways.

Alternatively:

By: True Name.

The I choose not to contract will much more likely get you into Booking - best to express that sentiment to the Chief with a timely R4C.

The point being, at the outset its clear that there is little or no consent even though you might play along. Go ahead and sign the ticket maybe. But let the judge-type know that you said that you told him that you didnt want to contract with them. Goes back to 'law of the flag': if you dont wish to contract under a particular flag you have to make it clear. Right of avoidance is even expressed in treatises concerning 'law of the flag'. Check out their shoulder patches--its notice.

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by artificialsteve

I called my state for instructions on Canceling/ending my drivers license privilege. When asked why, i simply responded: "I am not satisfied with the services this company provides."[
They actually told me that 'it is impossible'.So I asked her if she was making a legal determination on behalf of McAllum Licensing Agency, or if not, which government entities laws she was referring to.

...

So how did you do it?? Or, what legal docs did you utilize, if any, which you use as proof of your retaining the right to travel, vs. being 'not active in the licensing system'??
I hope I am not asking

Withuot Prejudice.
Chances are your local DMV has a form for turning in your DL--likely they will not be for you seeing the form except face to face at the DMV office. On that form it probably asks for reasons why you are doing it and it probably has some interesting things to say. The U.S. DL process is sneaky. The certificate of competency is one half .. the license is another. But they bind it all together as a 'favor' to you.

For answers..seek..and ye shall find: search online or on here for motorist qualification card. A motorist qualification card or a certificate of competency or the like printed on a piece of paper or on a card together with a certificate of search as David Merrill suggests should prove to be quite handy dandy.