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degree only?
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
As an example, Geena Davis is a Mensa member ..... and never attends meetings.
A substantial bunch of reasonably successful and well-adjusted people joined, just to say that they could, and quickly stopped attenting meetings.
I found that women that attend Mensa meetings are, ummm. "interesting". How's that for a euphemism?
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If you mean that Mensa women are nuts...well, aren't all women? In my experience, all women are flaky, the only difference is one of degree. 
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
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04-23-2008, 04:22 AM
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The word psychotic comes to mind. Imagine mrg with slightly bigger breasts.
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04-23-2008, 05:29 AM
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One Way to Make a Good Impression with the Judge:
Drunken driver gets maximum, tells judge he's bored
By Victor Whitman
Times Herald-Record (Upstate New York)
December 13, 2007 12:40 PM
Monticello — Lance Majors today denied driving drunk with his young daughter in the car and told Judge Frank LaBuda that he expected no justice from a man with a reputation for sarcasm in court.
Then he shook his head and laughed out loud as LaBuda sentenced him to the maximum of 2 1/3 to seven years in state prison for several crimes related to a drunken driving incident on March 24, where he was clocked at 107 mph with his 11-year-old daughter in the passenger's seat.
"Just speed it up because you are really boring me," Majors told LaBuda, after the judge had read the sentence and was chastising Majors for playing games with the court, the state police, and endangering drivers that night and the daughter.
On the most serious charge of felony drunken driving, Majors, 38, of Poughkeepsie, was sentenced to 2 1/3 to seven years in prison. He was given a maximum sentence on six counts, including charges for reckless endangerment, driving with a revoked license, endangering the welfare of a child and speeding.
Majors has five prior convictions for DWI, and has been convicted for a string of crimes, including a robbery and the possession and sale of drugs.
"Laugh all you want to, Mr. Majors," said LaBuda, who tacked on an additional 15 days of the sentence for contempt of court.
In August, Majors represented himself in a three-day jury trial, and called his daughter and ex-wife, who both testified on his behalf. Both of them were in court for the sentencing.
Majors was pulled over in Liberty. He refused a Breathalyzer and a blood test. He has denied being drunk. Troopers testified that he appeared highly intoxicated.
Assistant District Attorney Jim Farrell requested the maximum sentence, saying Majors had continued to deny his crimes or show remorse for driving a "3,000-pound missile" on the highway that night.
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04-23-2008, 09:14 AM
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psychotic vs. neurotic
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
The word psychotic comes to mind. Imagine mrg with slightly bigger breasts.
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DiM is psychotic. mrg may just be extremely neurotic.
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
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04-23-2008, 02:14 PM
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Multiple wins in an Arizona case.
From the Arizona Republic, April 15th:
Phony IRS papers filed in court
Prosecutors say signature, thumbprint of suspect in road-rage killing on fake forms
Michael Kiefer
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 15, 2008 12:00 AM
John Chester Stuart had one of the best defense attorneys in town and an argument for self-defense in a January road-rage shooting death in north Phoenix.
Then, on March 26, someone filed a series of documents in Stuart's name with the Maricopa County Superior Court; several have Stuart's signature, and one, according to the Maricopa County Attorney's Office, bears his thumbprint.
Prosecutors say that two of them are falsified Internal Revenue Service documents claiming Stuart had issued $3 million bonds to County Attorney Andrew Thomas and Superior Court Judge Timothy Ryan to settle his case and exonerate his bond.
Thomas had Stuart arrested and charged with filing false documents, a felony. He was held without bond because he was charged with a felony while out on bail on other charges.
But did Stuart file them himself, or did somebody do it on his behalf?
"My understanding is that he did not prepare these documents," said David Michael Cantor, Stuart's new attorney. "It was all prepared and filed by two other people."
On Friday, Superior Court Judge Roland Steinle unsealed the documents that landed Stuart in jail.
The phony IRS forms were accompanied by a rambling 26-page legal discourse on the U.S. monetary system and why a citizen is entitled to a share of the federal treasury.
One document appearing to be signed by Stuart was labeled "Bond Order" and addressed to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury claiming ownership of a federal government account worth $150 million and demanding that the two $3 million bonds be transferred from that account.
Cantor claimed that Stuart had no knowledge of the IRS documents, his signature is not on them, and instead pointed to the names on the letters attached to them in the filing.
One purports to be the name of a notary public in Oceanside, Calif., though there were no telephone or Internet listings under that name and address. The second was of an Arizona document preparer whose Web site says he is an ordained rabbi and law-school graduate who is not a member of any state bar.
According to police reports, on the evening of Jan. 29, Stuart and his fiancee were setting up Ron Paul campaign signs. Beasley and his wife were returning home after spending the afternoon at a golf tournament and a Scottsdale bar.
At around 9 p.m., according to reports, Stuart's car passed Beasley's on Pinnacle Peak Road in north Phoenix. Occupants of both cars said a slur was shouted from the other. When Beasley caught up to Stuart at Tatum Boulevard, the two men exchanged words.
Beasley got out of his car and walked to the driver's window of Stuart's SUV.
Eyewitness accounts vary as to whether Beasley reached into Stuart's car and attacked him before he was shot or whether Beasley was backing away.
Stuart shot Beasley once in the forehead, fled the scene and was arrested shortly afterward.
Beasley died at the scene. His autopsy showed he had a blood-alcohol content of 0.19, more than twice the legal limit.
Stuart was charged with second-degree murder and drive-by shooting.
He posted a $46,000 cash bond, but the IRS immediately imposed a levy on the money.
Though the lien was lifted, prosecutor Susie Charbel succeeded in getting Stuart's bond raised to $230,000.
The March 26 documents claimed to supersede that bond.
Larry Hammond, Stuart's attorney at the time he secured bond, argued that Stuart is not a member of an extremist group called the Freemen despite documents filed with the Pinal County Recorder's Office in which Stuart claims that he is not a U.S. citizen, does not recognize the authority of the United States and does not pay taxes or have a Social Security number.
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The description of the papers filed in court seems very close to some of the documents described by various people on this website.
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04-24-2008, 12:55 AM
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The word psychotic comes to mind. Imagine mrg with slightly bigger breasts.
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Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a fool whose lips are perverse.
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05-06-2008, 02:12 PM
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wrap up of Robt Beale trial
from the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, May 4, 2008:
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Tax deniers' crusade 'becomes a religion'
By JON TEVLIN, Star Tribune
May 4, 2008
Early in his trial, tax evader Robert Beale stood before the jury and boastfully described his rise from Maryland farm boy to Minnesota CEO worth $20 million. Then he compared his struggle to that of Moses and Martin Luther.
Court observers later stood in the hallway and debated whether Beale was an egomaniac, or insane. According to one juror, the panel that decided his fate pondered the same question.
Perhaps the only spectators who understood were the thickset men at the back, their boots still caked with field dirt: Beale's incongruous entourage -- what an author of a book on the subject calls "the overall contingency."
But the conviction of Beale this past week for evading $1.6 million in taxes, conspiracy and fleeing authorities marked what some see as a new chapter in such prosecutions. Like actor Wesley Snipes, who also was recently convicted, but unlike most tax protesters, Beale was wealthy.
"Snipes and Beale probably were worth more money than all the tax protesters in the country combined," said author J.J. MacNab, who covered the case against Snipes.
MacNab is finishing a book on so-called tax deniers called "Bombs, Taxes and Red Crayons" (many of them believe the government has no jurisdiction over something signed in red crayon).
The poor farmer is the prototype tax denier, MacNab said, but Beale and Snipes are evidence that the "cult" is spreading to others who feel disenfranchised by the government.
"Now we are even seeing some young black men beginning to get involved," she said.
If race or class is becoming less of a defining characteristic, however, tax protesters still share much in common, MacNab and others agreed.
Dan Scott, Beale's initial attorney before he decided to defend himself, has worked on at least 25 such cases.
"They all go to trial," he said. "They have a given belief system and are all incapable of admitting they are wrong. You hope to talk some out of it and tell them they will lose, that they will go to jail, but they never listen."
He said clients most often find their way into a tax crusade through failed farms, or religion.
"Once they adopt it, it becomes a religion," he said. "If you don't agree with them, it's because you don't understand and you're attacking their religion. Then the government goes absolutely bananas for the same reason, because [the resisters] are attacking the government's religion -- taxes."
And there is almost always a "trigger," some run-in with a government agency that launches a tax denier's crusade. Beale has said a conflict over earnings and taxes from a company he owned in Ireland in 1992 turned his distaste for taxes into a "hobby," then an obsession.
Yet, he was still unable to foresee the consequences.
Horace Beale, Robert's younger brother, testified that he repeatedly warned his brother that "people who don't pay taxes go to jail."
"I asked, 'Is it worth it to lose your family? Your house? Your business?'" Horace Beale testified. "You said, "yes.'"
"Did I do it for money?" Beale asked.
"I don't think so," said Horace.
'Completely sane'
Before his trial went to the jury, Beale agreed to a psychological exam, an idea he had rejected for months. Beale said he reconsidered "in case I'm crazy."
Is he?
Beale's son, Theodore, who also goes by the name Vox Day, and authors the popular conservative blog, Vox Popoli, spoke with the court-appointed psychologist who interviewed his father last week.
"He determined that Dad was completely sane, with an unusually high degree of optimism and appetite for risk that is typical of a successful entrepreneur," Theodore wrote in an e-mail from Switzerland.
"I couldn't help but laugh when the doctor said, in a rather pensive manner, that while [dad] had some strange ideas, he was surprisingly convincing," the younger Beale added. "I think that anyone who takes on a quixotic mission is viewed as crazy. Dad's not all that different than the gambler who keeps pushing all his chips back into the middle."
Scott agrees. "He's not depressed, he's not bipolar. But he suffers from insane delusions in beliefs that are absolutely unproven and absolutely unshakable."
One juror, who asked not to be named, said that whatever Beale's mental state, he came off as haughty and condescending.
Theodore Beale can understand that, saying he "can be a bit of a snob."
"And then, being an engineer, he has the typical engineer's disregard for those who don't know the facts when he does. He's really not so much arrogant as accustomed to being in charge of the meeting after decades as a CEO.
"But I do think that he felt he had a mission to help people. Don't get me wrong, the Moses and [Martin Luther] stuff does sound nuts if you don't realize it's a metaphor, not a delusion," he said.
Whatever their origins, arrogance, delusion or just plain stubbornness, Beale's personality traits have finally crushed him like so many warned.
Scott doesn't see Beale's upcoming sentencing providing much hope, since he faces up to 10 years in prison, not counting the time he could face on accusations of making pre-trial threats against the judge.
"He's 65, and he doesn't look well. I think he'll spend the rest of his life in prison," Scott said.
Jon Tevlin • 612-673-1702
© 2008 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.
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I can hardly wait for that Red Crayon book.
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05-06-2008, 02:36 PM
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HA! those crazy tax deniers, Shoonra thanks for the article it made me laugh. By the way have you found any Illegal Alien tax evasion articles to share?
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05-06-2008, 04:05 PM
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I believe all those w2's and 1099's are lies.Anyone who claims that a signature in blue ink means they can see "gross income" is meshuganah.
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