David Williams 3rd wins free room & board

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

You'll notice that this portion of the ADL site has absorbed the former Militia Watchdog website which was run by Mark Pitcavage, independently, until he was hired by the ADL as a researcher. The same collection appears on at least one other website.

So you are saying that you wrote that for the Militia Watchdog site and not the ADL, but that it was simply transferred across when he joined them?

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I notice that Sheisaceo is still coy about what put her behind bars. We know what put Van Pelt in the group showers; let's hear Sheisaceo's ugly details.

Shoonra's play for fear of imprisonment aside, I gather him calling me by my family's name is an insult. Shoonra gets insulting when I say something insulting first - quite the gentleman. And albeit I have not been on this thread much, Shoonra seems to be getting a little out of hand here, luxuriating in the suffering of people who do not know to defeat governmental immunity on the record before liening "public officials". Quotations because a vacant office has no public official.

I recall the fellow who had a "flypaper case" as I called it back in the early '90s that brought about that legislation - no liens against public officials. I called it a flypaper case because reading it brought a picture of every black robed attorney that came in contact with it strapped on a dangling flypaper roll. Indeed this fellow liened probably more than ten judges' properties and they finally came to me (superior court) for them to be released. (That should be good for a SFB remark from our arrogant Khazarian Zionist.)

Now listen carefully girls and boys - do not try the lien process at home until you have a Return of Bill of Indictment published against the public official proving he or she is not. Or you might end up in jail.


I have attached one below against Robert Erler who since signing that unpublished oath, has conducted hundreds of bogus foreclosures on Americans every day. All of them for which he is personally liable and lienable for.



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. It looks like the suitor who published this found a quote I made here on America Online? Keep up the good work folks! Cyberspace is great!

[Shoonra]

from the Madison, Wisconsin, CAPITAL TIMES, today:

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/274759


Man sentenced for slander of title
Mike Miller
February 28, 2008

A man convicted of filing a phony lien against a state revenue department agent who was investigating him for tax fraud was put on probation for five years today and ordered to spend a year in the county jail.

But the jail time for Bryan D. Hoel, convicted of criminal slander oftitle at a trial in January at which he represented himself, will be only about two months because he will credit for 308 days he has already been locked up since his arrest in late April of 2007.

Hoel was being investigated for owing some $35,000 in back taxes when he filed papers which indicated state revenue department investigator Judy Gartland owed him $600,000 for improperly using his name, and therefore he filed a lien against property she owned in the village of Dane with her husband.

According to Hoel he had filed in Minnesota to have his name trademarked, and when Gartland sent him routine correspondence on the tax issue she violated the trademark by using his name. Jurors took only about an hour of deliberations before finding Hoel was the one who violated the law against criminal slander of title.

Hoel did nothing to represent himself at trial, made no opening statement, called no witnesses and made no closing argument. Given a chance to speak before being sentenced today by Dane County Circuit Court Judge Stuart Schwartz, Hoel again declined.

"Without granting jurisdiction your honor, no," Hoel said when asked if he had anything to say.

Schwartz said by placing Hoel on probation for five years it would give other government workers who might deal with him some protection, and added conditions of probation that he not file any similar legal papers without the consent of his probation agent. Hoel is among a loosely knit group of anti-government, anti-tax people who contend local courts have no jurisdiction over them.

His legal troubles did not end today, however. He and his wife Amy, the daughter of State Rep. J.A. (Doc) Hines, R-Oxford, also face multiple counts of filing fraudulent false income tax returns. Those cases are pending before Schwartz. In putting Hoel on probation and ordering jail term, Schwartz said there was "absolutely no cooperation here with any authorities, in part because Mr. Hoel doesn't recognize any authorities." While the probation will not alter his beliefs, the judge said, it will keep him from harming others through phony liens by holding prison over his head.

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{You'll notice this guy used two or three of the ploys suggested by various people on this website. The success stories just keep rolling in!}

[trooper2ls]

Shoonora has a very valid point. You cannot just cobble together some stuff you find on the internet and use it as a basis to just stop paying taxes. That is why I generally preach that the U.C.C. methods are very risky. After all to become a licensed attorney you have to go through some serious schooling and then pass the state bar exam which is no small task. And even then attorneys specilize in a very small segment of the law because it is impractical and foolish to be an expert in all areas. I'm not an attorney, I don't give legal advice.. but I do give common sense advice. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

The only way that you can stop paying the Fed is for them to tender you an official letter stating that you have no liability and not to file. Anything less than an official letter from the IRS opens you up to a bunch of difficulties.

You have to do your own reasearch with official information and official documents and understand the concepts behind what you are trying to do... if you just rely on an attorney or some info found on the net on a patriot website then you will most likely be the looser in the end.. that is unless you were trying to obtain free room and board courtesy of the government.

I may not agree with Shoonora on many topics. But if you read this user's posts carefully, I havn't found any outright lies. Yes there are blatent posts designed to discredit specific theories and confuse new users, but no outright lies. Kind of like Bill Clinton. I didn't like him but I admired his knowledge of langage and the law. Not to mention Shoonora has a great sense of humor in my opinion.


..J

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by trooper2ls

I may not agree with Shoonora on many topics. But if you read this user's posts carefully, I havn't found any outright lies. Yes there are blatent posts designed to discredit specific theories and confuse new users, but no outright lies. Kind of like Bill Clinton. I didn't like him but I admired his knowledge of langage and the law. Not to mention Shoonora has a great sense of humor in my opinion.


..J

Same here. Outright falsifications are so rare from Shoonra that I marked it in my link library:

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/106610-post62.html

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

from the Madison, Wisconsin, CAPITAL TIMES, today:

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/274759


Man sentenced for slander of title
Mike Miller
February 28, 2008

A man convicted of filing a phony lien against a state revenue department agent who was investigating him for tax fraud was ...
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{You'll notice this guy used two or three of the ploys suggested by various people on this website. The success stories just keep rolling in!}

I still find it disturbing - the glee that can be sensed in being part of this Zionist cover for the forces in place. - Bernard Sussman writing for the ADL and such...

Imposing jurisdiction has never been the way of common law. If a man did not subject himself willingly to proceedings, voluntarily, he was to one degree or another removed from the protection of the civil order. One fine example is a man caught collecting firewood on the Sabbath in ancient Israel. He was put to death. Rabbinical commentary reveals that he was first warned to stop, then refused the warning(s) and persisted. Then because the encampment in general were afraid he would bring curses from God, he was ordered to leave the encampment.

Some definitions:

OUTLAWRY, Engl. law. The act of being put out of the protection of the law by process regularly sued out against a person who is in contempt in refusing to become amenable to the court having jurisdiction. The proceedings themselves are also called the outlawry.
2. Outlawry may take place in criminal or in civil cases. 3 Bl. Com. 283; Co. Litt. 128; 4 Bouv. Inst. n. 4196.
3. In the United States, outlawry in civil cases is unknown, and if there are any cases of outlawry in criminal cases they are very rare. Dane's Ab. eh. 193, a, 34. Vide Bac. Ab. Abatement, B; Id. h. t.; Gilb. Hist. C. P. 196, 197; 2 Virg. Cas. 244; 2 Dal. 92.

CAPUT LUPINUM, Eng. law. Having the head of a wolf. An outlawed felon was said to have the head of a wolf, and might have been killed by any one legally. Now, such killing would be murder. 1. Hale, Pl. C. 497. The rules of the common law on this subject are rauch more severe in their consequences, than the doctrine of the civil law relating to civil death. See 1 Toull. Droit Civil, n. 280, and pp. 254-5, note 3.

CIVIL DEATH, persons. The change of the state (q. v.) of a person who is declared civilly dead by judgment of a competent tribunal. In such case, the person against whom such sentence is pronounced is considered dead. 2 John. R. 218. See Gilb. Uses, 150; 2 Bulst. 188; Co. tit. 132; Jenk. Cent. 250; 1 Keble, 398; Prest. on Convey. 140. Vide Death, civil.

It is difficult to gauge through the reporter's spin how much of this the fellow in Shoonra's gloating article knows about jurisdiction. However the documented history of a state is recorded in the State Archives:

(carefully digest attachments)

The judiciary that was in place prior to 1933 was abolished for a voluntary bond system of Government bonds by Governor's Convention. To keep a man in jail because he understands what replaced it has no jurisdiction is the incitement of a riot.

Those in the understanding, like our law librarian Shoonra/Sussman prompt response that they can understand. They guide us into the response they are trained for...

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...oFam/2ndAM.jpg


Regards,

David Merrill.

[Shoonra]

Yet another recipient of free room and board for nonpayment of taxes:

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...0389/-1/NEWS02

[ezrhythm]

Away From Here With Your Anti Sui Juris Posts!

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Yet another recipient of free room and board for nonpayment of taxes:

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...0389/-1/NEWS02

Keep gloating bernie, we will have a whole section for your demise.
What goes around, comes around.

[Shoonra]

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Cheyenne Firearms Dealer Convicted of Tax Evasion and Harassment of Federal Officials

WASHINGTON, March 5 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Michael John Smith, a commemorative firearms dealer, was convicted today following a jury trial in Cheyenne, Wyo., on federal tax and fraud charges, the Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service (IRS) announced. Smith, formerly of Cheyenne, was indicted on May 16, 2007, on one count of obstructing the IRS, one count of tax evasion, and three counts of submitting fictitious obligations. He was also charged with two counts of submitting false statements relating to a bankruptcy petition.

According to the evidence presented to the jury, Smith purported to pay over $500,000 in taxes, penalties and interest owed to the IRS for tax years 1995, 1996 and 1997 with checks drawn on a closed bank account and with fictitious financial instruments called "bills of exchange." Smith also attempted to pay his Wyoming state sales tax liability with a similar fictitious obligation.

After the United States District Court for Wyoming entered a decree of foreclosure against the defendant's residence in 2004 to satisfy a federal tax lien, Smith harassed federal officials and employees, including IRS employees, federal judges for the District of Wyoming, and the U.S. Attorney for the District of Wyoming, by threatening to file liens against them and have them arrested if they did not pay him hundreds of millions of dollars.

Smith also filed documents with Wyoming's Secretary of State falsely claiming that the federal officials owed him at least $767 million and up to $2 billion and that their property was encumbered by security interests in favor of him. Smith also filed a false bankruptcy petition in February 2006 that failed to disclose his interest in a home in Mona, Utah, which he purchased in May 2005 in the name of a nominee.

"Convictions, like the one returned against Smith today, send a loud and clear message that illegal tax defiers will be investigated, prosecuted, and subjected to the full punishment of the law for their actions," said Nathan J. Hochman, Assistant Attorney General of the Justice Department Tax Division.

"The law is clear on the issue of taxable income and who is required to file and pay taxes: there is no gray area on the subject," said Eileen Mayer, Chief, IRS Criminal Investigation. "We should not forget that the ultimate victims in tax fraud cases are the people of the United States -- those honest taxpayers who diligently file tax returns each year. This conviction sends a message that the IRS is working to make sure that all taxpayers file and pay their fair share of taxes."

At sentencing, Smith faces a maximum sentence of more than 93 years in jail and a fine of more than $1.75 million. U.S. District Court Judge Clarence Brimmer has not set a sentencing date.

The case was prosecuted by Justice Department Tax Division trial attorneys Katie Bagley and Jay Nanavati and was investigated by the IRS Criminal Investigation Division.

SOURCE U.S. Department of Justice