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my impatience
duplicate posting.
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03-27-2008, 10:29 AM
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shoonra, an IRS agent , even CID ae not federal law enforcement
it's not fictitious if you have suffered damages, and if they agree to it by sending many notices; it becomes a consensual lien
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03-27-2008, 02:32 PM
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An IRS agent may not be law enforcement but he/she is "an individual described in {18 USC} section 1114".
The performance of official duties is not an "agreement" to take personal liability.
I might add that the same law, enacted Jan. 7, 2008, also adds 18 USC section 119, which says that publicly revealing, for the purposes of intimidation, personal information, such as SSN or home address or home phone of a person described in sec. 1114 or of federal court juror, witness or magistrate or of a number of other categories, is also a felony.
Both provisions are too new to have yet generated court decisions. But, as far as I know, none of those liens against IRS employees because of their official duties has ever survived a court challenge.
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03-27-2008, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
Lovely homophobic imagery again! What I enjoy about it is this Zionist ADL mentality that one should keep people in fear of jail and prison by this kind of disgusting intimidation. A rumor that you will be forced into homosexual activity for being imprisoned. Bringing this out in Shoonra proves I have struck a nerve with him.
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David,
Maybe Shoonra likes to be shown who is boss and enjoys a little cream in his coffee now and then. Different strokes for different folks! Im sure the ADL are a bunch of fairy fine fellas who enjoy their tea, O!!!! ROFLOL!!!!
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03-27-2008, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
An IRS agent may not be law enforcement but he/she is "an individual described in {18 USC} section 1114".
The performance of official duties is not an "agreement" to take personal liability.
I might add that the same law, enacted Jan. 7, 2008, also adds 18 USC section 119, which says that publicly revealing, for the purposes of intimidation, personal information, such as SSN or home address or home phone of a person described in sec. 1114 or of federal court juror, witness or magistrate or of a number of other categories, is also a felony.
Both provisions are too new to have yet generated court decisions. But, as far as I know, none of those liens against IRS employees because of their official duties has ever survived a court challenge.
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My question is this....Has anyone ever made a claim against the bond that risk management is required to have on their officials??? I definately believe that filing liens on officials is bad juju unless it can be proven they acted in bad faith outside of their authority. This is a tough road to go! If you can prove your case, filing a claim against a bond is far less risky since it isnt against the official personally.
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03-27-2008, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Livefire
My question is this....Has anyone ever made a claim against the bond that risk management is required to have on their officials??? I definately believe that filing liens on officials is bad juju unless it can be proven they acted in bad faith outside of their authority. This is a tough road to go! If you can prove your case, filing a claim against a bond is far less risky since it isnt against the official personally.
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That would simply be the synonym for "suitor" - court of competent jurisdiction -
A man or woman who knows how to create the record. The lien this thread is about would be a request for jail time "please" if the First Lien by the Treasury upon which the IRS agent published a NOFTL were a valid lien. The reason the lien against the IRS agent is a valid lien is simply because the NOFTL is not.
The suitor has already created a record showing so in the US district court.
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My question is this....Has anyone ever made a claim against the bond that risk management is required to have on their officials???
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That is the assumption that IRS agents are government officials. Since the Secretary as their principal is not paid by the US, that bonding is very elusive. The Institution that pays the Secretary is the IMF - an organ of the UN.
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David Merrill.
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03-27-2008, 05:29 PM
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The idea that you can, by any scheme or artifice whatsoever, make yourself a court of competent jurisdiction is one of the most insane delusions going. All legitimate courts in this country ultimately derive their authority from the government of one of the states or from the federal government.
You can call yourself a court. You can call yourself a Martian too if you want. Does not make it so.
As one real court, the Supreme Court of South Carolina, put it:
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328 S.C. 76; Earl NASH, Petitioner, v. Jack F. McINTOSH, County Attorney Linda DeShields, Clerk of Court, and Carl E. Anderson, Respondents.; 492 S.E.2d 75
Earl NASH, Petitioner, v. Jack F. McINTOSH, County Attorney Linda DeShields, Clerk of Court, and Carl E. Anderson, Respondents.
Supreme Court of South Carolina.
October 10, 1997.
ORDER
Petitioner has filed a petition with this Court seeking a writ of mandamus to compel the clerk of the circuit court to [Page 77] accept a document for filing. This document, which was issued by the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, allows a "judgment" issued by "Our One Supreme Court, Common Law Venue, Original and Exclusive Jurisdiction" in Franklin, North Carolina, to be filed as a foreign judgment in the District of Columbia, and indicates that the judgment of "Our One Supreme Court" is entitled to the same force and effect as a judgment issued in the District of Columbia. Petitioner argues that this State must accept this document for filing under the full faith and credit clause of the United States Constitution. U.S. CONST. art. IV, § 1.
On October 6, 1997, the Superior Court of the District of Columbia issued an order vacating the filing of the judgment of "Our One Supreme Court" nunc pro tunc to the date of its filing with that court. The Superior Court found that the judgment of "Our One Supreme Court" is not entitled to full faith and credit under either the Constitution of the United States or the law of the District of Columbia.(fn1) This renders petitioner's request for a writ of mandamus moot and the petition is denied.
IT IS SO ORDERED
/s/ Ernest A. Finney, Jr., C.J.
/s/ Jean H. Toal, J.
/s/ James E. Moore, J.
/s/ John H. Waller, Jr., J.
/s/ E.C. Burnett, III, J.
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1. "Our One Supreme Court" is a body established by persons who are apparently dissatisfied with the legitimate judicial systems in this country. These persons believe that they have the authority to create their own courts. This view is, of course, preposterous since a court can only be created by the sovereign power of a state or the federal government. 21 C.J.S. Courts § 93 (1990). Accordingly, the actions and judgments of "Our One Supreme Court" and other similar bodies are a complete and utter nullity, and have no force or effect. In light of this, this Court has previously directed the clerks of court in this State not to accept any judgments or other documents which have been issued by "Our One Supreme Court." We take this opportunity to reemphasize this point.
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03-27-2008, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawdog
The idea that you can, by any scheme or artifice whatsoever, make yourself a court of competent jurisdiction is one of the most insane delusions going. All legitimate courts in this country ultimately derive their authority from the government of one of the states or from the federal government.
You can call yourself a court. You can call yourself a Martian too if you want. Does not make it so.
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I do not want to call myself a Martian. But here is what I will call you - non compos mentis.
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David Merrill.
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03-27-2008, 05:49 PM
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heh
No judge ever called anything I filed a "rambling, nonsensical, incoherent blotch on this court's docket."
But federal district court judge Nottingham did that when he tossed your suit out exactly one day after you filed it.
Seems to me that, if you want to see someone who is non compos mentis, just take a look in the nearest mirror.
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David Merrill and his motor scooter are really unhappy with Jesus Christ. They sued him in federal court Wednesday.
Denver U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham was really unhappy that they did.
He threw the case out Thursday.
Nottingham's written order called Merrill's lawsuit a "rambling, nonsensical, incoherent blotch on this court's docket."
The judge then quoted a one-line book review by the satirical writer Ambrose Bierce.
"The covers of this book are too far apart," Bierce wrote.
"So, too," wrote Nottingham, "were the beginning and end of this pleading."
Merrill, 43, declined to be interviewed.
He and his motor scooter -- named as plaintiffs in the filing -- also sued the United Nations, the El Paso County sheriff, the Colorado Springs police chief and the Sanhedrin -- the highest court and council of the ancient Jewish nation at the time of Jesus' crucifixion.
The lawsuit is laced with obscure legal terms. It also contains references to Dutch settlement in North America; Nazis; Jews; obscure mathematical texts; a speech in May by President Bush about Social Security; and some darkly mysterious organizations whose secret agents allegedly hold powerful positions.
A careful reading, however, disclosed that Merrill didn't sue the real Jesus Christ.
He sued someone he thought was posing as the savior in a prank telephone call in May 2000, when Merrill had been given 10 days to redeem his confiscated car.
"This man addressed me by name and told me that he, 'Jesus Christ' did not like to see 10-day notices, that they made him look bad," Merrill's lawsuit said.
Then Merrill's motor scooter was seized on grounds that he was driving it with expired license plates, no proof of insurance and no driver's license. Merrill has a history of similar driving-related charges in El Paso County.
Convicted by a jury, he spent some time in jail. When he didn't pay impound charges to redeem his motor scooter, it was scheduled to be sold.
Merrill wants it back. He also wants $5,000 for his confiscated car. He wants several other things, too, and if he doesn't get them, he wants $12.6 million from someone working at the New York Stock Exchange.
"Jesus Christ of Nazareth paid the ransom in blood for me on the cross and my motorcycle is part of the eternal inheritance in general," Merrill wrote in his complaint.
He signed it with his thumbprint.
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03-27-2008, 05:55 PM
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one real court, the Supreme Court of South Carolina
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These "courts" are private BAR Association Casinos/Brothels.
They are strong-arm racketeering syndicates.
You are a quisling.
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In a republic the administration of affairs is open to all CITIZENS©.
A court is a republican institution where affairs are administered.
You must administer your affairs of court yourself or waive this right.
MOST PEOPLE, myself included, thought that John signed the Great Charter of English Liberties and became good King John afterwards.
This is wrong.
As soon as John got the rebel barons to disband their armies he waged holy war against them for the rest of his life.
OUR CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA must be defended and we must defend it to the best of our ability.
When you invoke a court you must assert your jurisdiction to hold it and cannot let the judge usurp your judicial power.
This means you do not pay an attorney fee to him to conduct your court, you do not submit documents to him for his approval, you do not motion him to move your court, you deny everything he has tried to file and you strike anything that he has attempted to enter of record.
He will not like you.
You are not trying to make friends with him.
Without the judge you can eject attorneys and enter your own orders including a declaratory judgment if no other party appears for court in person.
If a few of us do this we can be hunted down and exterminated.
If thousands of us do this it may succeed.
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