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Old 04-17-2008, 10:08 PM
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Time For Another Traffic Ticket Success Story

Taken from http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/
...and edited a BIT for readability.

no jurisdiction stuff. just holding they're feet to the fire for a few minutes in there own system

I was given a NON "NOTICE TO APPEAR" in Court in southern calif. by a Los Angeles police officer.
I filed a demure with the court to try and get rid of the contract (ticket) Prior to being charged.
Had to go to court and see the judge, I had all my paper work and research with me.
Judge calls the case and ask me what is all that? (pile of paper work) I said my research.
He said let me see it, then the deputy handed it to the judge,
who set the pile of papers next to his files and never even looked at it.
Then he says whats this all about? I think he thought by taking my papers that i would not know what to do and would fold.
So I said this is not a NOTICE TO APPEAR, judge looks at DA (District Attorney) and says what do you have to say to that?
DA says: we use that form a hundred times a day in this court and we are ready to go to trial.
Judge looks at me and says what do you have to say to that?
I said, "Motor vehicle code section 40500" says all NOTICE's TO APPEAR have to be on a judicaly approved form and the California Rules of Court say, ALL FORMS ADOPTED BY THE JUDICAL COUNCIL MUST SAY ON THE FACE SIDE, LOWER LEFT CORNER "FORM ADOPTED BY THE JUDICAL COUNCIL" AND THE "DATE IT WAS ADOPTED".
Their's did not have this on it.
Judge looks at the DA says what do you have to say about that?
DA says after consulting with his partner in crime "WE USE THAT FORM THOUSANDS OF TIMES EVERY DAY IN THIS COURT HOUSE. WE ARE READY TO GO TO TRIAL".
Judge looks at me and says what do you have to say to that?
I said, YOU DONT GET TO WRITE, "NOTICE TO APPEAR" ON A NAPKIN AND IT SOME HOW... LIKE WITH MAGIC IT TURNS INTO ONE.
Judge looks at DA and the DA says, Your honor we are ready to go to trial...judge says (you know what)
So i say well i need an extension to file discovery (this is the good part, shows the idiots are practicing).
Judge says, "You dont get discovery, it's an infraction".
DA interupts and says, if he plead guilty we were going to drop it to an infraction. WE are going to prosicute it as a misdmeaner...oooooh they got me scared now.
The Judge says, what do you have to say NOW?
I said, "NOW I need an extension so I can file a discovery motion and I need time to pick a JURY.
Judge gets mad as hell and twice as red and LOOKS at the DA and says.......wait for it...
"DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT YOU CAN NOT COME TO SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE DEFENDANT AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A JURY TRIAL FOR A ILLEGAL LEFT TURN TICKET?
DA gets all nervious talks to his buddy next to him and then says: IF THE DEFENDANT WILL PAY A $25.00 COURT COST (original fine to be $375.00 + assement) we will DISMISS THE CASE.
Judge looks at me and says, WELL?
I said, "I DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING. IF WE GO TO TRIAL I WILL WIN.
Judge looks dissapointed and I say, BUT JUST TO SHOW THAT I AM NOT UN RESONABLE I WILL PAY THE $25.00 DOLLARS.

JUDGE SAYS: "THANK YOU HAVE A NICE DAY SEE THE CLERK"

I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE...showed me the TRUTH that they (court system) are ALL POWERFUL AND ALL KNOWING ONLY AS LONG AS THEY CAN KEEP UP THEIR DECEPTION
Kind of like the Wizard of OZ or the President.
I did pay the $25.00 but i still consider it...KICKING their asses with their own system.
Just for the fun of it.
Didnt even need to get in to "Determination of specific JURISDICTION".
Who are the KINGS? WE ARE!
ROCK ON PEOPLE.
I have a few other stories, more later.
Please excuse the spelling. Its late and Good Night.
Peace to all.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:46 AM
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Let me see if I get this right: You're out $25 and this is somehow a success story.
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Old 04-18-2008, 04:46 AM
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You absolutely can't see the success in the story?
Are you beyond all hope?
Are you anti-american too?

Oh wait... that's right... you're on the lie-yer's side and deisire the accused to end up having to pay as much as possible to increase your evil begotten coffers.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:48 AM
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Good job!! I see it exactly as a success. Any time you can get a dismissal and only pay $25.00 verses $375.00, that is a success in my book.
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Let me see if I get this right: You're out $25 and this is somehow a success story.

So lemme guess, Bernie Attorney

If someone told you that their ATTORNEY ot a ticket down from 375 to 25, then you would say that is a success, right?
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:19 AM
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Let me see if I get this right: You're out $25 and this is somehow a success story.

You're just sore because the lawyers didn't get their cut.

A buddy of mine uses pre-paid legal. He get tickets reduced to $50-$75 all the time (2 in the last year) and if a moving infraction, reduced to a non-moving infraction.

Pre-paid legal knows what's going on and they go through this every day.

It's a revenue racket, nothing more.
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You absolutely can't see the success in the story?
Are you beyond all hope?
Are you anti-american too?

Oh wait... that's right... you're on the lie-yer's side and deisire the accused to end up having to pay as much as possible to increase your evil begotten coffers.
Don't worry about the vermin infestation in these here parts, you done good.
Well done.
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:16 PM
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Well done, I wish I had your guts!!!
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:47 PM
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Cody,

A win is a win, no matter how gotten. You are correct about one thing tho, the system will correct it's exploits once detected. After I used the Tumey v Ohio case in beating a seat belt ticket in MI (judges get a piece of every ticket in their retirement fund), the last 2 times I have been pulled over, the coppers merely hand my stuff back to me after running the license and tell me to be safe and have a nice day. A coincidence, I think not! I wonder if the state of MI is gonna find another source for funding their judges retirement fund!? ROFLOL
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Old 04-18-2008, 10:15 PM
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I'm curious Livefire...

Do you have any sources that provide any information as to how the monies received from traffic violation convictions are distributed? If so, please post this info. Thanks
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