
06-09-2008, 06:55 AM
|
 |
Come and Get Some!
|
|
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Colorado.
Posts: 6,274
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Right to the Castle
That is weird. It says that the "verdict" was Not Guilty.
However there was no arraignment date.
If the charges were not filed then there should be no verdict. If charges were filed then there should be an arraignment.
What happened?
Also the Docket indicated No Insurance which is not one of the charges listed in the title to this thread.
|
Interesting observation. At first blush I would say that your description of process came from a news reporter and that is likely where the discrepancy occurred.
However like I pointed out to a large list of Lawdog's referrals:
Quote:
Dear Suitors;
You may recall I prodded a NY Assistant District Attorney about his non-published oath of office. He encouraged me to subpoena any of the 75 other officials at his Ceremony if I wanted proof he had verbally sworn into his office. My argument was that his oath must be available in writing from an unbiased clerk, certified copy. I uncovered evidence I am correct but the "legal memory" is basically on his side of the argument. The conclusion about this unconstitutional policy boiled down to municipal home rule in the Five Boroughs - the five counties of NY that are urbanite-covered and replaced by municipal electors. That is to say municipal sprawl can cover an entire county and replace the state/county electorate with a municipal electorate - METRO/City of XXXXXXX.
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...esignation.gif
Most important to my point here is that in this research with the NY ADA I uncovered the purpose of the NY constitution, like all state constitutions and the Constitution is to provide a governmental template that promotes self-governance. That point in mind, I believe this may be the reason a fellow has had all charges dismissed in the case attached and newspaper article here:
Quote:
See his video:
Troubleshooters: Man protests driving regulations http://www.wwaytv3.com/video/trouble...regulations/05
by WWAY
In this troubleshooters report: A Pender County man who refuses to get a license plate, registration, or insurance on his truck.
Donald Sullivan says the Constitution gives us the right to travel the public highways, and he shouldn't be charged or regulated for simply exercising his right.
You might be surprised to hear a judge ruled in his favor.
Sullivan said, "I can govern myself. And America is about self-government."
"If a person proves he's responsible, leave him alone, he can govern himself, he doesn't need to be bothered by the government," said Sullivan.
Donald Sullivan isn't your typical guy. The retired Air Force Lt. Colonel voted for Ron Paul in the recent election, and says our government has gotten too far away from the republic our forefathers founded.
"We don't have control over our own property anymore, our own lives, our own anything. The state regulates and taxes everything," said Sullivan.
Sick of the government micromanaging his life, Mr. Sullivan staged a unique form of protest. There's no state issued license plate on his truck. You won't find an inspection sticker either.
Sullivan says he doesn't need them and he's been driving around without them for the last year and a half.
Sullivan said, "I wanted to get a ticket, and I wanted to have the vehicle impounded, and I wanted to be arrested, because you have to be standing in a court to pursue these kinds of questions."
He finally got his wish. A trooper pulled Mr. Sullivan over in January, and the case was recently heard in court.
The judge denied Mr. Sullivan's motions regarding the court's jurisdiction over him, but found him not guilty of the driving offenses in question. Mr. Sullivan says it was a huge victory, and says the next time he's pulled over, all he has to do is show the officers the paperwork with the court's not guilty finding, and he is off the hook.
But the lawyer we asked said, not so fast.
Attorney Griff Anderson said, "The court made a determination, for whatever reason, that the state had not proved beyond a reasonable doubt, that which they had to prove to prove someone guilty."
"What happened in this case is particular only to this case -- what occurred on the roadway when the trooper cited him. What happened in this courtroom has no bearing whatsoever on what could happen in any future instance on the road," said Anderson.
While Mr. Sullivan raises some interesting questions about individual liberties, Attorney Griff Anderson says it was a very unusual case, and when it comes to driving, the law is clear.
"This has been challenged in the courts, and routinely, North Carolina courts, US courts, other states have upheld the right of the state to regulate the way people travel. They can't prohibit people from traveling on public roads, but they can regulate it by requiring licenses, license plates and insurance," said Anderson.
We're not sure exactly how Mr. Sullivan got off the hook in court, but attorneys tell us being found not guilty is very different than having a case thrown out. Any number of technicalities can cause a case to unravel.
In case you're wondering, despite his distaste for traffic laws, Mr. Sullivan concedes that car insurance is a good idea.
|
You suitors, as a group, may be the only people who are in a position to understand this concept - holding court daily at your kitchen tables as you go through the daily contents of your mailboxes. I have a feeling Mr. Sullivan in the article stumbled across it inadvertently but understands fully now.
Regards,
David Merrill.
|
You observe that when charges are filed in the traffic court there is an arraignment. An arraignment is an Answer - I understand the nature and cause of these charges.
Very likely Donald James never answered. He just kept saying that he has a right to self-governance. The "judge" assigned the case saw that it would be futile to proceed, to force arraignment so he dismissed the case and the news got hold of the matter.
Regards,
David Merrill.
|

06-09-2008, 10:42 AM
|
|
Mental Jujitsu
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 675
|
|
|
who knows?
Quote:
Sick of the government micromanaging his life, Mr. Sullivan staged a unique form of protest. There's no state issued license plate on his truck. You won't find an inspection sticker either.
Sullivan says he doesn't need them and he's been driving around without them for the last year and a half.
Sullivan said, "I wanted to get a ticket, and I wanted to have the vehicle impounded, and I wanted to be arrested, because you have to be standing in a court to pursue these kinds of questions."
He finally got his wish. A trooper pulled Mr. Sullivan over in January, and the case was recently heard in court.
The judge denied Mr. Sullivan's motions regarding the court's jurisdiction over him, but found him not guilty of the driving offenses in question. Mr. Sullivan says it was a huge victory, and says the next time he's pulled over, all he has to do is show the officers the paperwork with the court's not guilty finding, and he is off the hook.
But the lawyer we asked said, not so fast.
Attorney Griff Anderson said, "The court made a determination, for whatever reason, that the state had not proved beyond a reasonable doubt, that which they had to prove to prove someone guilty."
"What happened in this case is particular only to this case -- what occurred on the roadway when the trooper cited him. What happened in this courtroom has no bearing whatsoever on what could happen in any future instance on the road," said Anderson.
While Mr. Sullivan raises some interesting questions about individual liberties, Attorney Griff Anderson says it was a very unusual case, and when it comes to driving, the law is clear.
"This has been challenged in the courts, and routinely, North Carolina courts, US courts, other states have upheld the right of the state to regulate the way people travel. They can't prohibit people from traveling on public roads, but they can regulate it by requiring licenses, license plates and insurance," said Anderson.
We're not sure exactly how Mr. Sullivan got off the hook in court, but attorneys tell us being found not guilty is very different than having a case thrown out. Any number of technicalities can cause a case to unravel.
In case you're wondering, despite his distaste for traffic laws, Mr. Sullivan concedes that car insurance is a good idea.
|
Interesting story, I admit. The attorney quoted is correct...that Mr. Sullivan was let off the hook by a judge once is no bar to being cited again in the future. He is also correct that every appellate court that his considered the issue (including the U.S. Supreme Court) has ruled that laws requiring licenses, insurance, etc. of drivers are valid, constitutional and enforceable. This being a trial court ruling, it has no precedential value at all, in North Carolina or anywhere else.
Perhaps the judge decided to let this guy off with a warning. It's hard to tell exactly what happened. It is interesting to note that the judge REJECTED his argument that the court lacked jurisdiction over him. Many of you are big fans of jurisdictional challenges, but rarely are such challenges effective, especially in criminal cases (including traffic offense cases). In any event, I wouldn't recommend anyone follow in this guy's footsteps, in any state. You might not be so lucky.
It would interesting to see signed orders from the judge rather than what was posted, which looks like printouts of computer screens. However, I do salute you for posting some actual evidence of what you claim. DiM and ThomPaine have never done that. So you're head and shoulders above them. Good job!
__________________
We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
|

06-09-2008, 03:24 PM
|
 |
Come and Get Some!
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Universal Kingdom of God; Earth
Posts: 1,111
|
|
|
Some historical prespective...
Traveling via the Way is without a doubt, a right. For some proper foundation: A Treaties on the Law of the Highways
Very strange how this common right has become obfuscated over the years.
If the Administrator [Judge?] had proceeded, would this have been a deprivation of rights under color of law? In fact, a felony: US Code - Title 18 - Part I - Chapter 13 - § 241 and § 242
Pensively,
Christopher Theodore: Rhodes
__________________
Note: It is a custom recognized by many People to use a ":" (colon) between one's name and their FAMILY name, and is used to segregate the name pertaining to the natural sovereign man, "Christopher Theodore," from the FAMILY name, "RHODES" (an implied trust), and further, both from the name of the implied constructive trust resulting from the workings of the New Deal, "CHRISTOPHER THEODORE RHODES."
Last edited by aksis : 06-09-2008 at 03:27 PM.
|

06-10-2008, 09:28 AM
|
|
Waking Up
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4
|
|
ColesLawPitYorkie; (an encoded nick
This is easy to resolve mathematically:
"ExecutiveOrder" != Court "Order" != Law != (public policy == statute)
(these are all empowered by "Color of law", meaning that there is a law that authorises the administrative, executive, judicial "statement" but that those statements MUST be congruent to some legislative enactment signed by a chief executive governor or president)
In other words, CommonLaw != Equity == Admiralty.
and Again, Maritime == Admiralty != Law,
but, Admiralty == Private International(*) Contract!!!
N. B. "(*)" meaning that "international" aspect of private contract refers to a NON-LOCAL contract with parties-signatories whose locality crosses the national boundary.
What this means is that not only can parties BE multi-national BUT ALSO multi-state (as in D. C., Florida, NewYork, etc)
Hope this helps.
Last edited by po0rg33k : 06-10-2008 at 09:39 AM.
|

06-10-2008, 10:08 AM
|
|
Unplugged
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 152
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by po0rg33k
ColesLawPitYorkie; (an encoded nick
This is easy to resolve mathematically:
"ExecutiveOrder" != Court "Order" != Law != (public policy == statute)
(these are all empowered by "Color of law", meaning that there is a law that authorises the administrative, executive, judicial "statement" but that those statements MUST be congruent to some legislative enactment signed by a chief executive governor or president)
In other words, CommonLaw != Equity == Admiralty.
and Again, Maritime == Admiralty != Law,
but, Admiralty == Private International(*) Contract!!!
N. B. "(*)" meaning that "international" aspect of private contract refers to a NON-LOCAL contract with parties-signatories whose locality crosses the national boundary.
What this means is that not only can parties BE multi-national BUT ALSO multi-state (as in D. C., Florida, NewYork, etc)
Hope this helps.
|
This all depends on though whether your in interstate commerce ---> At Sea (covenants with man)
or
Declaring the right to your own governance and State of Mind --> On the land. (covenants with nobody)
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:14 AM.
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.1 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.4.0
|
|