Newbie Day in Court

[Jerseee]

Or you could sign your name and put "under duress" as part of it as well--since you are being put under duress to sign a certain way.

[nralien]

Jerseee

I thought "under duress" was for threat of physical harm or restraint and/or property.& If they simply deny you service is that under duress?

nralien

[Jerseee]

nralien,

Maybe so. But have you read the definition of "duress"?

this is from a normal day to day dictionary "Webster's":

1. forcible restraint or restriction; 2. complusion by threat: specif: unlawful restraint

So, basically it is not of freewill. to deny the service under color of law to restrain or restrict your freewill and to compel you to sign a certain way--to me that is duress.

From my understanding (which is not gospel), duress works in tandem with fear. Usually fear of reprisal if something is not done the way someone else wants it. Since you know that if you basically breath the wrong way while driving (not traveling) you can get a ticket. the code is laced with penalities--no privileges. So you know that fines, tickets, penalties are everywhere. Some fines you get you don't even know its existense or origin.

So knowing this about the codes gives the person behind the desk undeserved authority. And since you are going to see this "authority" for an "alleged" privilege, they demand you do something a certain way or your privileges are going to be restricted, restrained or possibly denied by this "authoritive" figure head; unless, you do it their way.

I think this is a pretty accurate account of what happens when folks go down to DMV to do business. WIth that said, when you did this process--were you compelled to sign a certain way?

I know it is a bit long but, I had to explain how I view the situation and why I came up with 'under duress'.

[nralien]

Thanks Jerseee

The first thing I will try the next time I go to sign for a drivers license is "Without Prejudice UCC 1-207."& If they refuse that I will sign it "Under Duress."

And if they refuse that...

Any ideas on how to&compel the DMV to give it to you in writing about exactly why they will not issue you a license?

nralien

[Ice]

Maybe you should just&nicely request they put it in writing that they won't give you a license because you won't sign your signature the way THEY WANT YOU TO.


And if they refuse to do that you can then state -- well then, I'll sign this with my usual signature -- and try once again.


Take a few witnesses with you.... maybe you could start a "fire" in your state.


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[Jerseee]

The court of public opinion is stronger than any court in the land--even the Supreme court.

So take a few witnesses. Not only will they see first hand what you are fighting everyday--you may enlist a few more freedomlovers in this fight.

Good luck and have fun