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Tax office scams
This is a scanned section of the front page from one of the Tax department forms for registering an ABN (Australian Business Number).
It clearly shows the deception of tricking you into thinking that you are a "sole trader" because you assume you are an individual...not so.
In the Government's own Corporations Act it clearly states:
Sole Trader: A member organisation of a securities exchange.
Securities Exchange: The stock market. Soul Traders is more like it.
Application form: Application for ABN registration for individuals (sole traders)
complete this applicction if you are a sole trader who needs an Australian Business Number.
Who can apply:
Individuals or sole traders who are entitled to apply for an ABN.
Do not use this form if you are an entity such as a company, partnership, trust or other organisation. You need ABN registration for Companies.
(you see here they try to lull you into a false sense of security, by saying that you need to use a seperate form if you're (already) a company, corporation etc.)
So you continue...
Sole Trader information:
1. What is your name?
Title Mr_____ Mrs______ Miss______ Other__________
Family Name______________________________________
Date of Birth________________
Sex___________
To cancel this ABN you use this form...
Application to cancel registration (another form)
Section A: Entity Information
Entity refers to the sole trader, partnership, company, trust, superannuation fund or other type of organisation that is applying to cancel it's registration.
So you then realise after the fact that you became an "entity"..a legal person/fiction with another number attached.
Oh...and check this lovely gem..
PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION
If you have a TAX FILE NUMBER:
- You can now prove your identity by quoting your TFN.
Yeah...the identity of the strawman......glorified cattle rustlers..
(all info extracted directly from Application NAT 2938-07.2005)
Australian Government/Australian Business Register/Australian Tax office
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10-28-2006, 06:18 AM
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Here's another section..
Here they ask "Do YOU want to cancel the Entity's ABN... then underneath it talks about it being YOUR ABN...then it asks "Why is the Entity cancelling it's ABN...???
Let's look at this...
1. Is asking if you want to cancel the ABN on behalf of the Entity.
2. Is saying you must cancel your ABN if .....
3. Is asking why the Entity is cancelling it's ABN (not possible for a legal fiction to DO anything)
now...there's only one ABN here...
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10-28-2006, 06:57 AM
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Read this: The Tax office manager's answers!!
His actual answers in RED.
QUESTIONNAIRE
This Questionnaire has been compiled to gain a better knowledge of the relationship (if any) between the Australian Taxation Office (hereafter “ATO”), it’s Agents, Representatives, Employees and the undersigned witness (hereafter “Author”).
The Author claims advice and assistance is offered by the ATO as follows:
Page 08 of the TAXPAYERS CHARTER – IN DETAIL (SECTION C) states:
“You’re entitled to receive professional service and assistance from us.”
and “we provide advice, information and assistance to help you understand and meet your tax obligations and make you aware of your rights and entitlements. Usually this is free and includes: spoken and written advice”
Page 12 of the TAXPAYERS CHARTER – IN DETAIL (SECTION H) states:
“You can expect us to: give you advice and information you can rely on.”
DISCLAIMER
At no time does the Author admit to, consent, or in any other way imply that there is a “relationship” with or obligation to the ATO as a “TAXPAYER” or PERSON or otherwise by asking these questions.
Furthermore, the Author shall not be a party to any agreement, express, written, oral, implied, or otherwise if during the course of the visit to the ATO he is asked to state his name or by any other act, and he shall endeavour to make this known to anyone who asks for his name. The Author does not consent to the voice recording, capture of photographic likeness or video recording of his person at any time.
Any and all questions asked by the Author that appear on this questionnaire will be deemed to have been asked, if there appears a circle or tick around or next to the appropriate answer. In the event that any ATO agent, representative or employee will not answer these questions or upon answering refuses to verify their statements as true and correct to the best of their knowledge by their signature, it may be assumed that the person is either not qualified to provided that information or that the information given by that person is invalid or is in someway misleading, fraudulent or incorrect.
ACCEPTANCE
Your name. (as per PAGE 08 SECTION C - TAXPAYERS CHARTER)
Cameron Meizer
Date: 21/10/05……
QUESTIONS
QUESTION 1: Are you willing to answer the following 20 questions as per the offer in SECTION C, Page 08 of the “TAXPAYERS CHARTER – IN DETAIL” , which relate to tax obligations?
YES
QUESTION 2: What is your official position at the ATO?
A: Manager………………
Page 2 - continued
QUESTION 3: Are you the person of highest authority in this branch office?
YES
(if NO, please state the person of highest authority)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
QUESTION 4: In order to clarify your position, are you an employee of the ATO or are you personally employed by the Commissioner or Deputy Commissioner of Taxation?
A: Employee of the ATO……..
QUESTION 5: Have you read or are you aware of the statements made by the Honorable J HILL in the FEDERAL court case “DEPUTY COMISSIONER OF TAXATION VS LEVICK?”
NO.
QUESTION 6: Is the ATO responsible for the collection of a debt payable to the Commonwealth?
Generally the ATO would capture that, if there was a debt with another commonwealth agency.
QUESTION 7: Can the ATO sue a flesh and blood sentient being who does not pay an alleged debt as abovementioned?
YES
NO
OTHER (PLEASE STATE) I don't know.……
QUESTION 8: In regard to the ATO form “APPLICATION TO CANCEL REGISTRATION”, there are a number of confusing and misleading questions. Could you please clarify the following?
(A.): What is YOUR definition of an ENTITY?
You'll have to speak to the Small Business Office……
(B.): Is a flesh and blood sentient being an ENTITY?
I'm not qualified to answer.
Page 3. continued
QUESTION 9: In the abovementioned form, it states that an ENTITY “refers to the sole trader, partnership, company, trust, superannuation fund or other type of organisation that is applying to cancel its registration. What is the definition of a SOLE TRADER?
A: An individual.
QUESTION 10: Is a flesh and blood sentient being a “member organisation of a securities exchange”
I'm not qualified to answer.
QUESTION 10: Who does the ABN actually represent? (i.e WHO is it?)
(A.) The ENTITY
(B.) The TAX AGENT, PARTNER or TRUSTEE
(C.) The flesh and blood sentient being filling out the form (YOU)
(D.) All of the above
(E.) Other (please explain)
You'll have to refer to the Small Business Office……………………………………………………………………………..
QUESTION 10: Is the ABN transferable?
Same - SBO.
QUESTION 11: Is an ENTITY transparent for taxation purposes?
Same - SBO.
QUESTION 12: Is that information clearly stated on the abovementioned form?
Don't know.
QUESTION 13: Where can that information be easily found or accessible to the public?
A: On the ATO website - ato.gov.au, you can email questions………………………………………………………………
QUESTION 14: Is a “person” a flesh and blood sentient being?
Depends on the context.
Page 4: continued.
QUESTION 15: Is a PERSON(S) in all capital letters a corporation or other organisation?
Depends on the context.
QUESTION 16: Have you read and do you understand the INCOME TAX ACT 1986?
Yes, but it was a long time ago, and I didn't commit it to memory as it was quite thick.
OTHER (please explain) ……………………………………………………………………….
QUESTION 17: Have you read and do you understand the CORPORATIONS ACT 2001?
No, it's not relevant.
OTHER (please explain) ……………………………………………………………………….
QUESTION 18: Have you read and do you understand “How to understand an Act of Parliament” - 8th Edition by DJ Gifford and Kenneth H. Gifford” ?
NO
QUESTION 19: What is a TAXPAYER?
A: Anyone who is required to pay tax.
QUESTION 20: In consideration of the above questions, is it true then to say that the ATO can only levy taxes and gain authority over a flesh and blood natural sentient being, by their voluntary or assumed agreement, and by the transformation of that sentient being into an ENTITY known as a PERSON or TAXPAYER?
I'm not qualified to answer.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
I acknowledge that this questionnaire has been completed voluntarily, and has been answered to the best of my knowledge and ability. I believe these answers to be true and correct, and accept full responsibility for any information that is in any way false, misleading or fraudulent under oath of office (if any).
SIGNED:…Refused to sign……………………. AUTHOR (witness) ………………………………
No need to sign in the official capacity of my job.
Name: …Cameron Meizer………………….
Note: Please print your name in correct English under your signature; do NOT use ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
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10-28-2006, 07:16 AM
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smiles!
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Reason: smiles didn't work, and I needed a big smile for this one LOL!
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Scan of document
Here's a scan of the actual document...sorry couldn't be bothered scanning in 5 X A4 pages and beside's they wouldn't show up very well at that size.
Cheers
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more about the "entity"
Okay, so after I de-registered my ABN I got this notice....see attached.
It was addressed to me in my real name, but inside, it clearly shows WHO the entity really is.
The strawman, not the business name holds the ABN, and under the section where it says "exempt from tax", there is a mark in the "no" box.
So the strawman is liable for the tax of the business name, and I'm supposed to provide the strawman with my labour to pay it...
WELL..now that I'm using my private exemption, the strawman will have to find another way to fulfil it's obligation...and my little red stamp should do nicely.
You'll also note the label "individual/sole trader"
- remember, the Corporations Act states: SOLE TRADER - A member organisation of a securities exchange.
So the securities exchange is going on between the entities, being the organisation part, and I was the surity..
This also explains the real meaning of "individual" , because there is only one "person" in this organisation.
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10-30-2006, 09:02 AM
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Unless defined otherwise I have assumed "individual" to mean an adjective. However lets take it on as a noun.
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Originally Posted by Dictionary.com
individual
–noun 1. a single human being, as distinguished from a group.
2. a person: a strange individual.
3. a distinct, indivisible entity; a single thing, being, instance, or item.
4. a group considered as a unit.
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