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Say you live on a piece of land, it's a wooded area, occupied by many different species of animals, there is also a lake on the property which is home to fish and other aquatic animals. It would be the perfect place to live, everything one would need is right there.
The trees in the forest could be used to build the house, and the stumps could be burned out to use the resulting field for agriculture. One should be able to grow a variety of fruits and vegetables to eat, and letting the local deer population feed on some of your crops would be helpfull later if one ever needs to be taken for meat. Raising chickens wouldn't be overly difficult, and they would provide meat and eggs. If so inclined you could also have some cows for milk and beef, which you could use to make butter and jerky (mmm). The lake could be fished for more meat, and it would also take care of all your water needs.
All human "waste" and animal byproducts would be composted and used to fertalize the crops. You would use any animal fats to make soap, and I'm sure there are other uses such as food flavoring, preservation, and more. You could generate electricity with wind-power, solar power, hydro-electric power, or diesel power (using homemade soybean oil bio-diesel fuel). Over the course of time you would come up with all sorts of clever inventions to suit your specific needs. Obviously some of these things would need to be brought in from the "real world", but if you want to be a purist then forget I mentioned it. When all is said and done, you would have no need to leave your property... EVER.
So I would assume that since your hands never touched one of those dirty cocain-laden FRN's there would be no income to tax, and if you accept zero benifits from the local government, then shouldn't you be exempt from property taxes? Do the Amish get away without paying property taxes? When your "job" is to take care of your land, how can the government make you earn income to pay property taxes with? If you give the boy down the road a dozen eggs to chop wood for you, is the government entitled to 2 of them?
If one lived in the scenario I just presented, am I correct in thinking the government shouldn't be able to touch you? Wouldn't this be akin to how Corp. U.S. started, considering they had a piece of land under their control and just started legislating? Could you have your own constitution, laws, and courts? Though your jurisdiction would only encompass your property, it is still your domain. With this being the case, you could setup a system just like Corp. U.S. has done. You could start printing your own "legal tender", and use it to pay the boy to chop wood. Then you can serve the boy notice that he forgot to "voluntarily" pay his income tax... too bad he forgot to read your constitution! Eventually you could build-up your own legislative slave population just as Corp. U.S. has done, just think of the possibilities!
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08-28-2004, 04:37 PM
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<font Color=black>[b] I love it, <U> THE DIVIDED STATE OF WIESHAUPT</U>! I'll get my minions to agree to adhesion contracts addressed to them with their names in all CAPS & get them to perform what I want by getting them to operate under the presumption that they are a WEISHAUPT STATE CITIZEN.
If momma could only see me now!
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08-29-2004, 03:04 PM
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Yeah, your own little country. That was the American dream right? Are you a good king or a facist dictator?
Now, the next part of the story is that a small group of greedy bankers, bent on owning the whole world, came to your private little country and stole it from you without you even knowing it. Then they turned you into a servant in your own home and used violence to keep you in line while they used your labor to set up their own little country which encompassed the whole world.
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08-29-2004, 05:54 PM
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What labor? If you managed to support yourself with your land, how on earth did they manage to turn you into a slave? If you don't have a mailbox it's hard to send a demand for taxes, do you think they would try and serve you on your own land despite the "NO TRESSPASSING -- OR BE SHOT" sign?
Say instead of blasting someone, you cooperated with the "authorities" enough to contest the taxes in court. If they are demanding a certain amount of FRN's for the use of your land and you have no income what are you supposed to do? How does the court force you to earn income? I thought involuntary servitude was unlawful by their own admission?! I thought their own constitution said all land was allodium and free of fuedal tenures?
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09-01-2004, 03:30 PM
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Smart Aleck.....heh heh you're preaching to the choir here buddy.
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09-01-2004, 03:35 PM
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[color=black][b]You gotta hand to those Society Of Birdwatchers. Don't you think that their agenda shows that they are highly motivated people with high aspirations? I mean to say to yourself, "Yeah, I wanna control & run the whole world".
Now that's dedication, Brotha.
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09-01-2004, 03:47 PM
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<font color=darkblue face="tahoma">Isn't that what the folk at Ruby Ridge did?[/color]
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09-01-2004, 04:32 PM
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Yeah, so I'm trying to look at the situation as it would occur in real life and you either get left alone or snipered. Sure you could get a group togeather and start your own unincorporated community, but thats it... everyone else is going to stay in the cities and continue to live with caesar. If a majority of people wake up, then the elite will just drive the economy into the ground in an attempt to starve everyone to death and declare martial law.
The only way out as I see it, is to convince people that they need to be more self-sufficient or they're done for. If the elites destroy the economy, enough people have to be prepared to take care of themselves without the grocery store, Wall-Mart and Target, Best Buy, gas stations, etc. Those people will also have to take care of their neighbors as well, what percentage of American families need to be self-sufficient to take care of the ones who aren't?
What good is it to not have a SSN, DL, Voter Registration, not pay taxes, have allodial title, etc when everyone around you is starving or being herded into camps? What if a majority of people feel that it is the governments duty to route out the millitias, common-law, libertarians, and patriots? Are we going to have a civil-war part 2?
Which straw is going to break the camals back? The gov't has allready sowed the seeds of it's own destruction, now it's a race against time to try and convince people of that fact and help them prepare for the future.
United we stand, <u>Divided we fall</u>.
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09-01-2004, 08:25 PM
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Smart Aleck, are you familiar with the "Parable of the Cave" by Socrates?
If not, I think you would enjoy it. Go here:
http://www.bulldognews.net/cave-parable.html
How is it possible to wake someone up who is not aware that they are sleeping?
How do you convince a fish that he is wet?
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09-01-2004, 08:27 PM
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[color=black][b]Kick 'em in their bless-ed <u>ASS</u>urance ! !
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