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Old 01-15-2007, 09:29 AM
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What follows is a slightly edited version (in order to reduce confusion) of an email I just
received that I feel urgently needs the attention of our group for reasons I believe will
become quite self-explanatory; it is long & there is no way to shorten it, without
destroying the integrity of it's vital import ...

Look at this couple [you can't in this format]: Ed and Elaine Brown, of Plainfield, New
Hampshire. They are alive, for now.

Ed fully expects his home to be unlawfully raided by the federal mafia on Tuesday
morning. Ed and Elaine have vowed not to be taken alive. This has the potential of
becoming the next Waco (federal massacre of innocent civilians who have violated no law).
The federal court refused to permit the Browns to present, to the jury, the law as evidence
in their own defense. The judge denied the 42 motions they filed, all based upon valid
federal statutes of law.

As I write this, I am on a conference call and am listening to Ed Brown's voice, along with a
dozen or so others discussing the dilemma. There are some 40 people listeners not
participating in the discussion ..

Will Plainfield be another Waco?
http://yannone.blogspot.com/2007/01/...ther-waco.html

Ed is 64 years old. His wife is a dentist. They have not filed or paid federal income taxes
since 1997. Prosecutors claim (based upon arbitrary figures provided by the IRS) that the
couple "owes" $625,000 in taxes.

Ed says Elaine is the nearest thing to Mother Theresa who has ever lived. He helplessly
watched her being thrown to the ground and handcuffed last May, and he does not intend
to permit that to happen again. Elaine has vowed to stand with him to the end.

The Browns represented themselves in court and insisted, rightfully, that (1) they cannot
find any statute that requires them to pay (there is none), and that (2) the federal court has
no subject matter jurisdiction in a state venue. But the jury never heard any of that.

When it became apparent Thursday that the judge would not permit them to present the
law to the jury, as evidence in their own defense, they left at the end of the court day and
decided they would not appear for the next court session scheduled for Friday morning.
They didn't. They expect that, when they failed to appear Friday, that a bench warrant was
probably issued and a heavily-armed task force will be dispatched, probably Tuesday, to
their residence to arrest them and take them into custody.

From listening to the conference call, I learned that the so-called "federal" court house is
not even on federal property. That is, the building is LEASED by the federal government
from the New Hampshire owner.

Note: I already knew the Constitution is CLEAR on this point (Article I, Section 8,
Paragraph 17); the property must be (1) CEDED to the federal government by the state
legislature, (2) PURCHASED by the federal government, with PAYMENT being made by the
Congress, (3) the property must be subsequently DEEDED to the federal government, and
(4) the property transfer must be recorded on the public record. That provision was
completely ignored when the Federal Government unlawfully and unconstitutionally
asserted federal jurisdiction over Timothy McVeigh's case and moved the trial venue to
Denver, Colorado. All wrongful death cases not occurring on federal property are under
the sole jurisdiction of the State in which the deaths occurred. While the venue for the
trial can be moved within the state, under no circumstances can it be moved outside the
state. When jurisdiction was challenged constitutionally in the McVeigh case, the Court of
Appeals wrongfully ruled that the Constitution "is not admissible evidence of law."

I witnessed an almost unbelievable marshaling of resources being coordinated on the
phone. Fred Smart placed a call to the Sullivan County (NH) Sheriff's office and found it
was open only from 8 to 5 Monday through Friday. He called the local police department
(as we all listened) and politely and professionally informed the dispatcher (Lisa) that the
Browns were unarmed, that many people across the nation are interested in this case and
support the Browns' demands for a FAIR trial in accordance with the LAW, that citizens will
be conducting a vigil at the Brown home to witness the conduct of any raid or arrest, that
a number of people will be filming the events, and that several television networks will be
invited as well. Further, Fred told Lisa that a website had been set up and the story will be
plastered all over the Internet so as to attract as much attention as possible.

Fred Smart, by the way, is the publicity director for Aaron Russo's documentary film
"America: From Freedom to Fascism." Russo's documentary proves, even to the
satisfaction of intelligent laymen, that the federal government....535 members of
Congress, all federal judges, all cabinet members, all presidents and their staffs....knows
that THERE IS NO LAW requiring American citizens, living and working within the external
borders of the 50 states and earning domestic incomes, to file or pay federal income
taxes. Though the 16th Amendment conferred no new taxing powers to Congress, nor
extended it to any subjects not previously covered, the Department of the Treasury and
the IRS cite the 16th Amendment as their authority for collecting taxes.

"If you...examined [the 16th Amendment], carefully, you would find that a sufficient
number of states never ratified that Amendment." - U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox
(2003)

While the conference call was in progress, someone offered to set up a blogspot where all
the information could be posted. The name that should be given to the blogspot was
discussed, and a consensus was reached. To my amazement, I found it before the call was
over.

QuestforFairTrialinConcordNH
http://questforfairtrialinconcordnh.blogspot.com/

Please, everybody, spread the word on this Constitutional CRISIS far and wide. Copy and
paste this email into a new email and send it to everyone you can reach (please DO NOT
use your FORWARD function, as that most often destroys format and saturates emails with
those pesty carets (these things >>>) which discourages reading).

Another conference call is scheduled for (I think) 7:30 Eastern this evening. Call 702 851
4044, punch 2 when prompted, then enter this code when prompted: 1626# That should
be mentioned on the blogspot before then, so the time will be there. It might be at 7.

And if you haven't already seen Russo's film, watch it here:

America Freedom to Fascism Authorized version - Google Video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...30277175242198

Our country is RAPIDLY becoming a POLICE STATE. Please help stem the tide.

Thank you.

Fred Marshall
--
AFTF National Volunteer Coordinator
312-602-2568 w
847-878-8090 c

"Lord I have no plans of my own save those you shall reveal to me." - Dean Fagerstrom,
The Mission of Anglion"
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SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM!!

We're losing America. To see how you can help get her back, visit
www.FreedomToFascism.com.

"One PEOPLE, One MOVEMENT, FREEDOM FOR ALL" - Aaron Russo

"Worf"
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedomless

Our country is RAPIDLY becoming a POLICE STATE. Please help stem the tide.

Becoming?? The police state has been here since the War Between the States but specifically since 1933 when FDR amended the Trading with the Enemy Act (1917) to include citizens of the US for the enemy.


Thank you.

Fred Marshall
--
AFTF National Volunteer Coordinator
312-602-2568 w
847-878-8090 c

"Lord I have no plans of my own save those you shall reveal to me." - Dean Fagerstrom,
The Mission of Anglion"
__________
SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM!!

We're losing America. To see how you can help get her back, visit
www.FreedomToFascism.com.

"One PEOPLE, One MOVEMENT, FREEDOM FOR ALL" - Aaron Russo

"Worf"


I too received an interesting email yesterday...

Quote:
Hi David First-Middle:Family here We recently found 26CFR section 303 but you can also review 301 and especially 302 It seems we are being treated as enemies and if you read section 303 it is perfectly and exactly how the IRS treats us and as an enemy they can take your SS payments. Enemies have no rights. Remember Jose Padilla?? And the ravings of George Bush about him?? Hasn’t the IRS always sent the frivolous letter whenever we cite supreme Court Cases, their own manuals, or any statutes in subtitle A ??? Look what they do to the proponents of the 861 position. I actually have considerable foreign income and a raving IRS agent said 861 did not apply to me while the dope agreed I could take the foreign tax credit. It applies to me. That aside 26CFR 303 is policy and a revenue agent said all those things we cite that restrict IRS authority do not apply because they were implementing Congressional and Presidential policy. A regulation becomes policy if Congress does not object in 60 days. 303 is all based upon Executive Orders and Congress did not object so now it can be applied as they incorporated into a regulation that has been published in the Federal Register. They will ignore the provision of law cited in the below message and they will take the SS payments for those taxes they collect under 303 policy and they will make a 1040 form out for our friend and take his property into the custody of the alien property custodian and from that they will extract the taxes they calculate as they wish.
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:58 AM
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Will people please wake up.

We are a conquered people.

"America" is under foreign military occupation, and has been for some time.

Those people were in a military tribunal, under military jurisdiction.

If there is armed incursion, they will not be "arrested," under civilian law, they will be "captured" or killed under policy or "rules" or principles of engagement, in a military action, possibly as insurgents.

This will likely be taken under silent judicial notice by the officers overseeing the military tribunal.

They might want to look to the military rules of procedure of the occupation military tribunals as applies to captured civilians under occupation, if there are any such.

Wake up people, the British are coming.
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:28 AM
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They might want to look to the military rules of procedure of the occupation military tribunals as applies to captured civilians under occupation, if there are any such.


Already done! Anybody who has been watching courtroom TV or actually sits in the gallery will recognize where they got the process:

http://www.jag.navy.mil/documents/mcm2000.pdf
Rules for Courts Martial – United States
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:50 PM
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What would happen if these people would of filed as soon as they became aware of a grand jury being convened against them? I believe they would not be looking at time in Club Fed or potential suicide by cop but instead would be involved in fighting off collection activities. If they don't want to pay the man will have to give up practicing dentistry. We could start our own community free of government benefits, I know Ward Dean is a Dr. and now we have a dentist.

Income is a corporate profit and the courts are treating us as corporations, if we are running around with a SS# anything will be considered frivolous. The only defense is lack of willfulness, you still pay, see Vernice Kuglin.

When you accept benefits like SS from the Feds you move from the common law to the admiralty and they can send you to Iraq, fill you with vaccinations and even chip you since you are now a possession of Persephone land.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:28 PM
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We could start our own community free of government benefits, I know Ward Dean is a Dr. and now we have a dentist.
Interesting idea..
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