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This Years 1040 Form Invalid
An OMB number is required on all forms in which the federal government requests information.
This years 1040 form has the OMB number, 1545-0074.
This OMB number has EXPIRED!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/librar....TREASURY.html
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04-11-2007, 07:51 AM
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Yep....., thanks for the link.
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04-11-2007, 12:42 PM
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The OMB number argument about the Income Tax form has been tried before and consistently rejected by the courts.
The OMB publishes a list of its approvals under the Paperwork Reduction Act and the current list of approvals includes the same approval number as the IRS uses for its Form 1040. There doesn't seem to be any requirement that, if a form serves the same purpose year after year, the OMB must use a different number for renewing its approval. I don't know of ANY instance in which an individual has successfully invalidated an OMB approval when the OMB itself says that it has approved the process.
The likelihood that a court will hold the IRS 1040 form ineffective because of its OMB number (or lack thereof) is about zero. The requirement to file a tax return in embodied in a statute tracing back to long before the Paperwork Reduction Act and some courts have held that, under 44 USC sec. 3512, this means that the form 1040 is immune from the Paperwork Reduction Act.
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04-11-2007, 01:25 PM
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Yup, the OMB number is a sure loser
YOu need to expatriate U.S. Citizenship while in a union state foreign to D.C. pursuant to 8 USC 1481 (a)(2)
And then claim State Nationality in order to avoid the malum prohibitum tyranny gang rape squad who has ideologically sodomized people such as Shoonra
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04-11-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
The OMB number argument about the Income Tax form has been tried before and consistently rejected by the courts.
It has also had success.
Rejected or not, it is also the law.
The OMB publishes a list of its approvals under the Paperwork Reduction Act and the current list of approvals includes the same approval number as the IRS uses for its Form 1040.
As per the OMB site I posted the OMB number has expired. What's the pupose of having required numbers and setting expiration dates for them?
There doesn't seem to be any requirement that, if a form serves the same purpose year after year, the OMB must use a different number for renewing its approval.
Your use of the word, "seem" is key here.
Different number or not, it a least has to be current and not expired.
I don't know of ANY instance in which an individual has successfully invalidated an OMB approval when the OMB itself says that it has approved the process.
And do you know of ALL the instances?
The approval process is not in question in this thread.
The likelihood that a court will hold the IRS 1040 form ineffective because of its OMB number (or lack thereof) is about zero.
Your use of the word, "about" is key here.
The requirement to file a tax return in embodied in a statute tracing back to long before the Paperwork Reduction Act and some courts have held that, under 44 USC sec. 3512, this means that the form 1040 is immune from the Paperwork Reduction Act.
The PRA is also not the issue here.
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Nice post for "beating around the bush".
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04-11-2007, 03:30 PM
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One would think it would a very small matter for IRS to submit the newest form to obtain an OMB number.
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04-11-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ezrhythm
An OMB number is required on all forms in which the federal government requests information.
This years 1040 form has the OMB number, 1545-0074.
This OMB number has EXPIRED!
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Code sections and backup data please...
Shoonra: Any idea which cases those were - just for reference?
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04-11-2007, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Posted by Ezrhythm
An OMB number is required on all forms in which the federal government requests information.
This years 1040 form has the OMB number, 1545-0074.
This OMB number has EXPIRED!
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/librar....TREASURY.html
I think they were given some sort of "extension" though.
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OMB NO: 1545-0074 EXPIRATION DATE: 12/31/2006
RESPS:130,200,000 HOURS:3,000,000,000 COSTS(000):$23,400,000
U.S. Individual Income Tax Return
FORMS: 1040 SCHEDULES-A-B-C SCHEDULES-C-EZ SCHEDULES-D-D-1
SCHEDULES-E-EIC SCHEDULES-F-H-J SCHEDULES-R-SE[/size]
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Posted by Weisshaupt
YOu need to expatriate U.S. Citizenship while in a union state foreign to D.C. pursuant to 8 USC 1101 (a)(2)
And then claim State Nationality
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8 USC 1101 (a)(2)??
Quote:
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER I >
§ 1101. Definitions
(a) As used in this chapter—
(1) The term “administrator” means the official designated by the Secretary of State pursuant to section 1104 (b) of this title.
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(2) The term “advocates” includes, but is not limited to, advises, recommends, furthers by overt act, and admits belief in.
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(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...1----000-.html
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04-11-2007, 08:05 PM
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Good job, mrg. Thanks for the link.
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04-11-2007, 08:10 PM
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Without Prejudice.
Perhaps the lack of an OMB number is a clue as to the origin or nature of the form.
See this thread:
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/taxati...t-w-4-a-2.html
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