Forced W-4

[FreeFromContract]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

First it just mentions a NUMBER. Then it says that the CARD is PROPERTY of the SSA

Are you implying that it is outside the bounds of basic logic that; since the card is the SSA's PROPERTy, and since the word CARD is connected to the word NUMBER in sentence 1; that the NUMBER is also PROPERTY of the SSA ?

Seems like you are relying on the MAsonic Black Robed Priests to Bless this in their Holy Annotated Scriptures rather than thinking for yourself and using your critical reading skills

You are like a Catholic who thinks only a priest can interpret the bible in the same way that you think only a judge can interpret legislative intent

Amen Weis.

The World According to Shoonra: If it isn't in a statute, court decision, administrative process or ruling, then it didn't/can't happen.

[RickA]

You are like a Catholic who thinks only a priest can interpret the bible in the same way that you think only a judge can interpret legislative intent

Oh those makrel snappers.

In addition to mrg's questions to Weis. The problem I have with people like Bork, Stevens and the rest is that one has to pay to obtain the paperwork to dis-associate oneself from the problem. To me, if the problem is serious enough, which it obviously isn't to many then, why charge?
I look at from a differently.

[weishaupt1776]

Maybe this is a sign for me to start shopping at the Dollar store or scraping the bargain bin

[rentiap]

Originally Posted by RickA

Oh those mackerel snappers.

In addition to mrg's questions to Weis. The problem I have with people like Bork, Stevens and the rest is that one has to pay to obtain the paperwork to dis-associate oneself from the problem. To me, if the problem is serious enough, which it obviously isn't to many then, why charge?
I look at from a differently.

Dagon is their god.
Hmmm what's on their head? Could it be a fish?

[mrg]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

It is junta issued scrip.

Backed by futures speculation on anticipated productive energy of slaves.

You do not have to use it.

You want out of the sandbox, get out then.

Don't stand there with one foot in and another in mid-air all the while trying to legitimize "lawful" use of the benefits of the one.

"I will lift mine eyes unto the hills."

"Thou wilt hide me in the crevice of the rock."

(Paraphrased; if you want the exact and more I will locate that and more if you want to "come out from her.")

The ground still grows food.

In fact the earth of Creation still cutivates food, medicine, clothing, shelter, etc. of its own volition.

People can barter.

What, you want your cake and eat it too?

There is NO "de facto legislature!"

There is NO LEGISLATURE, period.

The foreign occupation soviet has passed nothing but gas.

There is NO court, there is forced inquisition.

There is no executive power, there is corporate fascist dictatorship backed up by mercenary private corporate municipal armed force.

There is no "separation of Powers," no "checks and balances."

Show where there ever was a constitutional entity enumerated therein as "Florida National."

You are not politically disenfranchised, you are of a conquered People under foreign corporate mercenary armed military occupation.

It is NOT legislation, either with or without re-pre-sent-a-tion, it is not LEGISLATION, it is DECREE, fiat.

The law as ordained and established, both in-divid-ually, and severally, is not on your side, or at your side, it is in absentia.

BANISHED.

We the People [in-divid-ual sovereign political status]

of the United States, [plural]

in Order to [thats an Order, the Bill paid in blood]

1. form a more perfect Union, [of in-divid-ual and several states]

2. establish Justice,

3. insure domestic Tranquility,

4. provide for the common defense,

5. promote the general Welfare,

6. and secure the Blessings of Liberty

to ourselves and our Posterity,

do ordain and establish [in-divid-ual-ly]

this Constitution [see constitutor]

for the United States of America. [plural]

It lives.

You do not need to re define political status, there it is spelled out clearly above and backed by the Unanimous Declaration and paid in blood.

We are Citizens, lawfully holding the Civillian Office of We the People, in-divid-ual-ly and as the body politic.

Sovereign in-divid-ual Civillian and Civil Citizens in Civil Office of We the People (decidedly not PRESUMED corporate citizen/slaves subject to a void nullity at law.)

Claim it.

Not easy, but neither was establishing it in the first place.

Tyranny is not GOVERNMENT.

There is no "de facto."

There is "Controlling force; irresistable compulsion; a power or impulse so great that it admits no choice of conduct...," wallowed in by carpetbaggers and scalawags casting lots for the garments of "legislative Powers;" Pilate, Herod, and Caesar delighting in the overseeing of "executive Power" being sodomized by moneychangers; Scribes piercing the heart of "judicial Power;" and a people drunk with blood from the cup of the Whore herself, and feasting on the flesh of each other.

[weishaupt1776]

Not sure how the above stance would allow you to prevail in an action against you

Do you have what you purport in a documented fashion in order to rectify their errors ?


Just claiming "who you are" in a brief at the last minute in the midst of the action is a sure loser

[jeagas68]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

Title 26
§ 31.3402(f)(2)-1 Withholding exemption certificates.

So the distillation of all this is that, YES, you are required to file a W4 and YES, your employer is required to get one from you. The regulation is quite clear on that, and if you don’t supply one, they will automatically withhold you at single and zero, which is the maximum. There are also monetary penalties for failing to submit one, both for you, and for the employer unless they report that you refused to sign one, and then they will just be told to hold at single and zero so this is one you can’t get out of.

If you insist on working for someone else who does not know any of this and all else fails, instead of yourself.
Make it easy and do it correctly.

Federal Tax Lien Act of 1966 puts IRS liens under the UCC as negotiable instruments, so that would make most all other forms also "negotiable"

This is what both me an the wife do, cross out the SSN and mark TIN, after all they are the tax office not the SSA office. In the top part in credits/deductions section write diagonally on it's face in caps "EXEMPT", underline it then underneath that write in large characters "26 USC 3402(n)". Write in the Name of the account in capital letters and before address "Care of" then the address, for the rest follow the instructions for filing exempt from the form. At the bottom before the signature write "by;" then your signature because it is not you, it is their account not yours.

** Attached is what the IRS sent my wife after submitting this to the Employer **

If this does not prove the above subject point, I do not know what does.

[jeagas68]

Originally Posted by mrg

We the People [in-divid-ual sovereign political status]

of the United States, [plural]

in Order to [thats an Order, the Bill paid in blood]

1. form a more perfect Union, [of in-divid-ual and several states]

2. establish Justice,

3. insure domestic Tranquility,

4. provide for the common defense,

5. promote the general Welfare,

6. and secure the Blessings of Liberty

to ourselves and our Posterity,

do ordain and establish [in-divid-ual-ly]

this Constitution [see constitutor]

Keep digging there Kemosabi, the rabbit hole is deeper then that. Look under your state statutes for a chapter called statutory construction for a definition of "Person" and soon you will find that " We the People " means the incorporated franchised citizens due to the Constitution being a Corporate Charter for U.S, Corporation.
look up "government of the United States" at manta.com and see who the CEO is.