Tom Cryer Takes On The IRS

[Petrous]

"Which Constitution is he upholding? The organic Constitution of 1789 or the written constitution of 1874?"

Which Constitution provides remedy for a disagreement of the interpretation of law? Who is going to determine the correct interpretation and is that decision binding under the Constitution, either one.

[ISAIAH]

Looks like these guys are going to keep us up to date http://www.triallogs.com/ <-

[Logan]

Tom Cryer and Becraft Best the DOJ Written by djahn Wednesday, 11 July 2007 This update was reportedly distributed by We the People. I'm on a conference call right now. I'm fairly confident this report is accurate.
David Jahn
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From: Bob Schulz
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:00 PM
To: Bob Hurt
Subject: [We The People] NOT GUILTY! Tom Cryer and Becraft Best the DOJ
NOT GUILTY!

July 11, 2007

Tom Cryer and Becraft Best the DOJ

According to our court-watcher we can tell you the following:

At the start of the trial the DOJ withdrew the felony charges, leaving two counts of willful failure to file.

The Constitution and the law were allowed into the courtroom. Although Cryer was able to tell the jury what he read, he was not allowed to show the jury what he read. Cryer was also able to tell the jury what he did not read in the law because he could not find it in the law - the law that made him liable to file and pay the federal income tax.

Tom did a good job of explaining to the jury what he read in the Brushhaber, Stanton and Eisner Supreme Court cases about the legal meaning of the word "income" and what he read in the Internal Revenue Code - everything but the law that required him to file. Tom had asked the IRS to show him the law that made him liable but the IRS did not respond.

Larry Becraft's closing arguments were "flawless."

Compared to the judges in the Simkanin and Schiff cases, Cryer's judge was "Cinderella."

Congratulations Tom and Larry.

[quasimodo]

Ya know, I just posted this to the Success Stories forum then I saw this one. My bad.

I’m listening to the We The People Radio Network www.wtprn.com . The time now is 10:49 cst (bottom of the 2nd hr.) The show is Your Rights, Your Freedom, And The Law hosted by, Peymon Mottahedeh. The archive is not up yet of course but he has been talking for the past 2 hrs about this victory for Tommy Cryer. I’m sure the show will be archived by morning, and it is well worth a listen.
Here’s a link to the archives page;
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Peymon07.html

BTW This is a fantastic internet radio station and invite all to tune in.

We are not born free, we are born slaves. We have to learn to be free.
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[rottweiler]

I am glad he is going to avoid prison but I believe Cryer is going to have to pay, file and I would guess be disbarred. Wouldn't it have been better to have just filed the damn returns since he obviously has assets that the IRS can take? I just don't understand what the purpose of this all was. Someone please tell me what this is about because I don't understand the purpose of it all.

[joseph sugarman]

Dear Rottweiler,

The purpose of it all is for each of us, as individuals, to stand up, in our own personal way, to the fraud being perpetrated against us all by a corrupt, treasonuous, federal government. A secondary purpose is for each of us to learn enough about how this happened over the last one hundred years, or so; so that we completely understand and know it well enough to teach the next generation and the next: SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!

Why are you here?

[rottweiler]

Because TOM CRYER is first, a "person born or naturalized in the US, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," and Tom Cryer is second, a citizen of the state in which he resides, he is liable for a return because he has waived his rights and entered into a commune type society e.g. corporation. Does he use a SSN? If so that is evidence that he has waived his rights and fits my description. This 14th Amendment concept is explained in Deuteronomy, chapter 28.
Why couldn't these attornies find a way to educate the people on that? Did you ever hear of the George Rapp society? It was ruled to be constitutional because our right to contract is unlimited.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cmlaw1.htm

If that is wrong my post was not appropriate.

Here is what was good about Cryer's case.

This prominent attorney has a good faith belief that he is not liable and then is found not guilty of willful failure to file. He knows of no law that makes him liable.

Here is what pisses me off about it and why I made the post in question.

The question of whether or not the income tax as applied on wages was not on trial and can not be on trial because the courts have ruled, blah, blah ,and blah, but the bastard attornies won't explain it for us like I attempt to do. Why? Because they are luciferians and have a motto. "never smarten a sucker". They will never tell the truth, at least not on purpose.

Here is why Cryer will now have to file and "pay"............invisible contracts.

Originally Posted by joseph sugarman

Dear Rottweiler,

The purpose of it all is for each of us, as individuals, to stand up, in our own personal way, to the fraud being perpetrated against us all by a corrupt, treasonuous, federal government. A secondary purpose is for each of us to learn enough about how this happened over the last one hundred years, or so; so that we completely understand and know it well enough to teach the next generation and the next: SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!

Why are you here?

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by joseph sugarman

Dear Rottweiler,

The purpose of it all is for each of us, as individuals, to stand up, in our own personal way, to the fraud being perpetrated against us all by a corrupt, treasonuous, federal government. A secondary purpose is for each of us to learn enough about how this happened over the last one hundred years, or so; so that we completely understand and know it well enough to teach the next generation and the next: SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!

I agree.

Mr. Cryer had to convince a jury in two or three days, what takes many people two years to grasp. Congratulations to Becraft and Cryer.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

I am glad he is going to avoid prison but I believe Cryer is going to have to pay, file and I would guess be disbarred. Wouldn't it have been better to have just filed the damn returns since he obviously has assets that the IRS can take? I just don't understand what the purpose of this all was. Someone please tell me what this is about because I don't understand the purpose of it all.

Maybe. However, he is still entitled to a jury trial, therefore, this may give Mr. Cryer another chance to expose the tax hoax.

Further, this current victory may allow Mr. Cryer to pursue the government for malicious prosecution, he may be the man that can pull this difficult feat off.

Additionally, the government may have spent big bucks on this case, money they may not be able to recoup from Mr. Cryer. Of course the government hoped to use this case to instill fear in millions of people, this is how they profit. However, this isn't the case if they lose, as they did in the instant matter. Something to ponder.

[Questionmark_Y]

Does anyone have a link to the DOJ indictment?

I am curious to read it.

Thanks