Tax Protesters Standoff Feds in N.H.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by FreeFromContract

The federal agents will invade these people's home when they want regardless of the legality and regardless of whether they have passports. These agents are stooges and are only acting on their superior's orders. I doubt they've given any thought or consideration concerning issues of jurisdiction.

The unfair convictions is all that's needed from the government's standpoint. Regardless of what happens, if they survive, they should appeal, in my view.

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by FreeFromContract

The federal agents will invade these people's home when they want regardless of the legality and regardless of whether they have passports. These agents are stooges and are only acting on their superior's orders. I doubt they've given any thought or consideration concerning issues of jurisdiction.

Without Prejudice.
I have done quite extensive research and investigation pertaining to a variety of situations like those.

As much as I did not like what happened at Waco, it was outright criminal what they did to those people..however, I looked for at least one nexus for the Feds, and, to knowledge:

DAVID KORESH was a holder of a Federal Firearm's License and likely a licensee under the United States Trading With the Enemy Act--the same act that has been said to be the basis and authority for the United States invading Iraq. Not to justify any evil deed done against the Branch Davidians, the point is that the Feds were probably going at him on a war powers nexus extending from the FFL.

No doubt what they did at Waco was just ghastly. And I am not saying anything to justify those acts undertaken by there then. But the point is, it can be important to analyze carefully, perceive deeply rather than in a shallow, surface-only manner.

But back to the people in New Hampshire, the newspapers ran articles about how they have US passports, etc. The attorneys behind the scenes are merely illustrationg and supporting the case they have for "the Queen". (Rhyme intentional) The point is: they have U.S. passports and the newspapers RAN ARTICLES MENTIONING THIS--did the couple send the U.S. passports back for cancellation? Did the federal judge issuing any warrants happen to overlook the fact that they are holding U.S. passports and that they didnt cancel the passports? Do they have SSNs? Is the house is likely registered in STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE? There is likely SOMETHING standing out like sore thumb that the Feds are going--a nexxus of sorts.

The point is, analyze the paperwork, the information, etc. And with the attachment, I am to illustrate to you with handwriting on the wall oh so very clear. See what folks maybe should consider is that sometimes cases like the one with Ed Brown could be STAGED from the very beginning with even the seeming victim being just another actor in the entire charade.

I could be emotional and all caught up in sensationalism but rather than do you that disfavor, I'd rather encourage people to really really take a look at things.



Behold: Here you have a U.S. citizen and his wife maybe alleging that the U.S. doesnt have jurisdiction over them, yet they have U.S. passports and they have the U.S. flag flying from their house (not just one) NOT a New Hampshire flag mind you. According to law of the flag, from the perspective of the U.S. agents in the field surrounding the building, the house looks like a place under 26 USC. According to the law of the lag, from the perspective of the U.S. agents, their house is a at least a U.S. enclave. Such makes me wonder if he either 1) lacks such knowledge, or 2) is a wiling actor in a show.

[Shoonra]

The simple fact is that the federal agents haven't yet, after more than a month, invaded this house. Similarly, they didn't invade the house used by the Montana Freemen or the trailer used by the Republic of Texas. They can just outwait these people -- in the case of the Montana Freemen it was only until Rodney Skurdal ran out of cigarettes.

These people aren't going anywhere and neither are the federal marshals.

[FreeFromContract]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

The simple fact is that the federal agents haven't yet, after more than a month, invaded this house. Similarly, they didn't invade the house used by the Montana Freemen or the trailer used by the Republic of Texas.

And I'm sure you have plenty of excuses for Waco too Shoonra.

The only reason they didn't storm his home a couple days ago was because the agents were discovered before they had the chance to attack.

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

The simple fact is that the federal agents haven't yet, after more than a month, invaded this house. Similarly, they didn't invade the house used by the Montana Freemen or the trailer used by the Republic of Texas. They can just outwait these people -- in the case of the Montana Freemen it was only until Rodney Skurdal ran out of cigarettes.

These people aren't going anywhere and neither are the federal marshals.

Without Prejudice.
Well if they do attack "the compound", hopefully they wont use CS gas like they did at Waco, Texas which happened to be banned for use in military operations then burn the building down to cover up evidence that they just maybe violated an international weapons convention, went against US Army Field Manual directives and murdered children in the process.



"Shh dont tell anyone. Move along--nothing to see here."

U.S. Army Field Manual FM 19-15 warns that CS "is not to be used in buildings, near hospitals or in areas where lingering contamination could cause problems."

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

id the couple send the U.S. passports back for cancellation? Did the federal judge issuing any warrants happen to overlook the fact that they are holding U.S. passports and that they didnt cancel the passports? Do they have SSNs? Is the house is likely registered in STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE? There is likely SOMETHING standing out like sore thumb that the Feds are going--a nexxus of sorts.


Behold: Here you have a U.S. citizen and his wife maybe alleging that the U.S. doesnt have jurisdiction over them, yet they have U.S. passports and they have the U.S. flag flying from their house (not just one) NOT a New Hampshire flag mind you. According to law of the flag, from the perspective of the U.S. agents in the field surrounding the building, the house looks like a place under 26 USC. According to the law of the lag, from the perspective of the U.S. agents, their house is a at least a U.S. enclave. Such makes me wonder if he either 1) lacks such knowledge, or 2) is a wiling actor in a show.

Ex - Freakin' - Actly

Read the above quote again, guys

If you are presumed to be a Federal Citizen through the various adhesions from the 14th amndmt on up -
all the while kickin' & screamin' about the income tax - then the government really sees that you have no beef becasue you have done nothing regarding your status

I believe the Brown were following this fruitcake

at iamsovereign.org

I believe that their own "court" "dismissed" the case
http://www.iamsovereign.org/2007/04/...l-prevail.html

wonder what the beef is then ??

Couldn't be those adhesion contracts, could it?

[charlesa6]

Yeah. Fulltitle is making sense. Doesn't it?

[Freetalker]

It seems to me, and others, that the NWO is trying their best to get the Patriots to form an insurrection and attack the police here in New Hampshire. Tanks still surround the "compound". Why do they always call it a compound? Shell casings reportly have been found on site. Folks have been tasered. What's next? The law works for the New World Order, not for the rest of us. forced law by the barrel of a gun. sounds a lot like another dictator country we have read about in history, doesn't it?

Aborted Attempt to Murder the Browns
Saturday, 09 June 2007
By Kat Kanning

It appears now after hearing the testimony of Danny Riley, friend of tax truthers Ed and Elaine Brown, that the militaristic activities of the Federal Government on June 7th was an aborted attempt to murder the Browns. Federal authorities are aware that Ed Brown has said he will not be taken into custody alive, yet they still surrounded the property, bringing in 2 tanks, multiple helicopters in an attempt to take the Browns into custody. They did this knowing that it would likely result in the deaths of the Browns, and likely the deaths of officers.

What is so damned important that they need to end people's lives over? Is it really the money? I don't think so. The Federal Government can print all the money it desires. I believe it's about control. The feds can't have people telling them, "No." It threatens their whole power base, their control over the voluntary servitude of the masses. The feds are forced to take action when people question their authority. Because if we all realize that they only can do these things to us because of our acquiesce, their power will disappear. They can't have that, so the mainstream press must vilify the Browns, calling their home a fortified compound, calling them criminals for wanting to keep what they've earned. The government will continue trying to kill the Browns to maintain their control over us, their voluntary slaves.

http://shrunklink.com/?xsf

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by Freetalker

It seems to me, and others, that the NWO is trying their best to get the Patriots to form an insurrection and attack the police here in New Hampshire. Tanks still surround the "compound". Why do they always call it a compound? Shell casings reportly have been found on site. Folks have been tasered. What's next? The law works for the New World Order, not for the rest of us. forced law by the barrel of a gun. sounds a lot like another dictator country we have read about in history, doesn't it?

http://shrunklink.com/?xsf

The Browns have not corrected their nationalities and/or have not even taken the first steps in formally challenging the presumed 14th Amndmt citizenship.
The result is that the Feds can colorably enforce military jurisdiction becasue the Browns are in rebellion to the DeJure New Hampshire Republic because they are presumed to be declaring allegiance to a defacto foreign D.C. Nationality

They are subjects of the Feds because of their "slave" status and will be treated like enemies because they have no rebuttal documentation which shows that they are lawful New Hampshire Nationals who have expatriated 14th Amdmt U.S. Citizenship

[psholtz]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.
Waco was practice, conditioning. Also, there is very likey that there is something that the Feds are looking at to give them jurisdiction. If thats the same family I am thinking of that I heard about before, they both have U.S. passports.

Yeah, but I'm starting to get really, really sick of these stupid, absurd "technicalities" like "Oh, you have a passport! That means you have to abide by all our inane, asinine, tyrannical rules and let us treat you like a slave from cradle to grave!"

People! You have a right to freedom of travel.

If the government is requiring you to obtain some kind of fraudulent travel document just to travel, and then uses that fraudulent document to impose fraudulent taxes on you, then *obviously* you're living under tyranny!

The time has come to draw a line in the sand (or perhaps, in the concrete)..