Opt-out of Social Security

What is your guys thoughts on opting out of SS and stopping your SSN? I looked at the form 4029 but i dont want to try that route
I dont want to hear "there is no way out" I now there is I had many Sen. and Congressmen talk about people that got out so there is a way.


Lenny

[aksis]

FBIman,

This topic has been discussed in this forum quite a bit.

Use the search feature and you'll find most stuff to read than you can read in a day... prehaps even a year.

ok here is another ??? I cant fined. Does my company have to take out SS out of my check I got them to stop with fed and state taxes but they are still pushing SS?

[David Merrill]

That seems the issue. I would gather that by no withholdings you have either declared exemption or have somehow taken full responsibility for paying income tax at the end of the tax year (April 15). Or maybe you are redeeming lawful money like in my video?

Since SS is voluntary - and especially like with me you may have already earned entitlement - you may have already paid into SS for more than 10 years already. So even in anticipation of SS benefits, you are not required to keep paying in. Since SS is voluntary, this sounds morelike a conditioning by your employer.

I remember a case mentioned in the video where the Supreme Court has ruled that participation in SS means you are subject to the Internal Revenue Code. I looked up that case and it looks true. I did not study it because I do not participate in SS. But at a glance it looks like that is right. Also I have been told here that simply filling out a W-4 or even being notified and rejecting the Withholdings offer like that ... that is your consent to be paid in private credit.

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ublicMoney.wmv
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06869308133588

If you want to get rid of your SSN (even if you might be using it as intended later) quit saying it and writing it down. If you understand it well enough to explain that to your employer's attorney, fine. Otherwise you are dealing with conditioning. Belief sets are the highest addiction. I have been banished from Quatloos yet somehow I am managing to still write there...

http://quatloos.com/qforum/viewtopic.php?t=1028

http://quatloos.com/qforum/viewtopic...0db7880401bfe9

Yes, Florida, we all know he is crazy as a loon. But since he refuses to get help, that makes him fair game for ridicule in my mind.

Regards,

David Merrill.