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Old 03-10-2008, 09:13 AM
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I kept getting those types of letters for awhile also. What I did was simply sent a letter back to them basically stating that I don’t understand why they need to update any information they may have about me because I’m am not under their jurisdiction. I then closed with something to the effect of if they believe I am incorrect in my premise in any way to please contact me with the correct information that is supported by law. That was sometime earlier last year and, from there, I’ve never gotten another letter.


Indeed a R4C. It was likely destroyed pursuant to the Section cited above (bad link). Maybe they are just not bothering with more letters now.

You just explained more than I would.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:20 AM
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I got these letters back in 2004. I didn't know what they allegedly meant at the time. The IRS may think they are notices, but if you look at the letter, it does not mention a tax year or an amount. Why not keep the letter but respond under penalty of perjury with the information as requested? That way, you have gone even beyond the request and of course protected your rights. What will happen if you do that? Well, in my case, they sent my reply back to me saying they could not help me with MY request. A simple mistake I'm sure. Though, a suspicious type person might think they did not want my sworn letter in their file so they could claim default on something that really is a non notice!! Luckily, I am not the suspicious type. But, its good to keep the letter, your certified reply under penalty of perjury and their response.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:51 PM
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Dear RushPat;



I am still zeroing in on that link - it keeps failing.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part5/ch18s21.html

Can you pull it up from your History? Read it by citation? and re-link me to it?
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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:05 PM
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David,

Try this link, http://www.irs.gov/irm/part5/ch19s21.html


Scroll down to 5.19.10.4.3.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:22 PM
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http://www.irs.gov/irm/part5/ch19s21.html#d0e310633


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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:28 PM
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Well, 3 years later, I'm getting these again. This time the CP code is ASFR (automated substitute for return?).

Anyway, sorry my stuff was so out of date. They keep changing the online IRM so that links don't last long.

I noticed the section about destroying notices that are marked refused or undelivered. It's not really clear on what their next step is in the system after the refused part.
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:06 PM
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:18 PM
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Yeah, I still lurk from time to time, but I've not posted much in a couple of years. Glad to see everyone continuing to fight the good fight.
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:21 PM
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It could be that Charlie Blue, not filling it out and not doing the two things that would have gotten it immediately destroyed, and not ignoring it may have contributed to long delay as it got sent back up the chain for someone to look at.

I may do something similar to delay the processing.
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:37 PM
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It could be that Charlie Blue, not filling it out and not doing the two things that would have gotten it immediately destroyed, and not ignoring it may have contributed to long delay as it got sent back up the chain for someone to look at.

I may do something similar to delay the processing.
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