How to Eliminate Property Taxes

[gldskr]

andrew

While you seem to be getting it, you still appear to be content in wallowing in mud/sludge. Consider these facts:

1. The nature of the transaction determines the jurisdiction. Yours is a statutory de facto transaction.

2. This transaction is a voluntary contract. There is no way you can honorably eliminate your property tax liability from this contract other than by selling the property. A contract is a contract, right?

3. Your personal status in this contract is that of a person/trustee/fictional entity/etc. whose role is that of a surety. The only ownership rights you have are possessary only, you are a de facto renter.

The posters on this and other threads have given you ample info for you to proceed with your task. Keep in mind that the proper acceptance of the land patent is only one piece to the puzzle, it does not, however, abrogate your liability for antecedent contracts.

So, back to your original question; How to eliminate property taxes? You have to ask yourself one question; Do I want to be a de jure owner or a de facto renter? It's as simple as that! Jurisdiction is everything.

Once you decide what you want the process is relatively simple, but if you insist on financing with banksters your endeavor is in vain as they will not loan outside of the system. Banksters are the "government".

Perhaps you know this already, but you appear to be flying off on tangents.

gldskr

[andrewmitch]

Thank you Rott and Gold...

Rott: what do you mean by "General Delivery for utilities"?

Gold: You said the transaction determines jurisdiction and while I can see that, how does "Territorial Jurisdiction" work? According to what I read in Black's Law it made it seem if you live within certain boundaries they have jurisdiction.

[andrewmitch]

I know I am jumping all over the place but how about this for an idea:

Buy the Tax Lien Certificate on YOUR HOUSE! So if there is a default, you still own the house!

[rottweiler]

Get a Post Office box. Let's say you get box 123. Do a change of address with your utility companies to:

andrewmitch
Postal Department 123
Anytown, Connecticut[12345]

Do not accept a bill in a federal zone address.
Call and correct them.

Use your own envelopes.
Do not visit their offices.
Use postal money orders.
Pay 6 months ahead.

You may have to haul your own trash away.

Originally Posted by andrewmitch

Thank you Rott and Gold...

Rott: what do you mean by "General Delivery for utilities"?

Gold: You said the transaction determines jurisdiction and while I can see that, how does "Territorial Jurisdiction" work? According to what I read in Black's Law it made it seem if you live within certain boundaries they have jurisdiction.

[andrewmitch]

That's easy and I thought that's what you meant. I just wasn't sure if something unique had to be done for utility bills.

[andrewmitch]

On my deed is a stamp that says "RECORDING JURISDICTION" and then the town writting in. This could be the crux of the matter. No recording = No Jurisdiction ?????

[andrewmitch]

or how about this - RECORD it w/ another town with a much lower tax rate. Pay the lower tax to the other town and let the other town defend the position with your current town?????? seriously though the more i dig into this the more i think i can win. the issue is can i deal w/ the harrassment that is sure to come after the victory??? or how do i remedy the harrassment...

[gldskr]

Originally posted by andrewmitch
On my deed is a stamp that says "RECORDING JURISDICTION" and then the town writting in. This could be the crux of the matter. No recording = No Jurisdiction ?????

Proper recording is certainly a piece to the puzzle but is not the crux. It may be disregarded alltogether, although that may not be wise. The recording of statutory transactions are required, however, but we don't want to go there, right?

As previously mentioned, jurisdiction is determined by the nature of the transaction. Realtors, mortgage brokers, banks, title companies, attorneys are all statutorily regulated and are required to facilitate statutory transactions only. They must all be avoided.

The county recorder is the proper place to record your documents and is used by the corporation as well. The problem is that most, if not all states, have a corporate recorder that is used for real estste transactions. Chances are, that your documents will be recorded there. That is why I would suggest publishing your docs in the newspaper so as to avoid this problem.

Originally posted by andrewmitch
or how about this - RECORD it w/ another town with a much lower tax rate. Pay the lower tax to the other town and let the other town defend the position with your current town?????? seriously though the more i dig into this the more i think i can win. the issue is can i deal w/ the harrassment that is sure to come after the victory??? or how do i remedy the harrassment...

This is utterly ridiculous and you cannot win. If you want to avoid harrassment, structure your transaction properly the first time and be done with it.

gldskr