Tax Agency papers- sent to wrong address

[Shoonra]

The oath of an IRS employee is the standard federal civil service oath set out in 5 USC sec 3331, and it is part of the paperwork done when he/she is hired and it would be kept in that person's personnel file. As such it would not be discoverable under an FOIA. If he got the job, you can be sure he signed the oath.

I would suppose that going to the effort of having one's mail saved or forwarded when moving, but not making the same effort to notify the IRS of the new address even after more than a year, getting the mail that was sent to the old address, but still not responding (much less notifying the IRS of the current address even then) and trying to exploit the change of address in that way would indicate an effort to keep the IRS in the dark about one's current whereabouts.

[Chinese Panda]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

The oath of an IRS employee is the standard federal civil service oath set out in 5 USC sec 3331, and it is part of the paperwork done when he/she is hired and it would be kept in that person's personnel file. As such it would not be discoverable under an FOIA. If he got the job, you can be sure he signed the oath.

No, I know from personal experience that it most certainly is discoverable under FOIA.

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I would suppose that going to the effort of having one's mail saved or forwarded when moving, but not making the same effort to notify the IRS of the new address even after more than a year, getting the mail that was sent to the old address, but still not responding (much less notifying the IRS of the current address even then) and trying to exploit the change of address in that way would indicate an effort to keep the IRS in the dark about one's current whereabouts.

I agree. You beat me to the punch. Yes, he should update his records since he knows.

[nicetaxcut]

I did not file a change of address with the post office, and I am unlisted. I'm not sure if I changed the address on my W4, though my employer has my current address of 1.5 years. I know the last time I signed the W4 I claimed 99 exemptions, and also added the "without prejudice, UCC 1-207". My employer asked me about that statement (the VP was a law professor), and I told them my tax attorney told me to do it. !

I am not sure which steps to take, because I have letters from both Fed and State. I believe I do not have a requirement to pay Fed income taxes, as per the Constitution, which means I also do not have a requirement to pay State taxes. Which do I respond to first? Or can it be simultaneous? And, what is this correspondence they supposedly received from me (Fed)?

[Shoonra]

So you deliberately avoided doing what most other people do when they change addresses, you falsified your W4 form, and you've failed to respond to both federal and state tax authorities. Does that described your situation??

My advice (which I don't expect you to follow) is: file an honest W4 with your employer, notify the post office & IRS & others of yiour current address, and communicate with both tax authorities to straighten out this mess (it might help if you had a professional, either a tax attorney or a CPA, work with you on that).

Of course, I'd expect some other people on this forum to tell you to do just the opposite. Keep in mind: The ones giving you that advice probably won't be there to give you words of encouragment on visitors' day.

[nicetaxcut]

How did I falsify my W4? If I could do it again I wouldn't sign one. Just not sure how to do that yet.

Yes, I deliberately do a lot of things that most other people do. ! Is your advice from the standpoint of me being required to pay tax on my income?

[KarenM]

Originally Posted by nicetaxcut

How did I falsify my W4? 99 exemptions. If the IRS wants, that's a potential criminal evasion tactic. If I could do it again I wouldn't sign one. Just not sure how to do that yet.

Yes, I deliberately do a lot of things that most other people do. ! Is your advice from the standpoint of me being required to pay tax on my income?

If you believe you don't have to pay tax on your income, what's the issue?

Just don't pay it and let the chips fall where they may.

[Shoonra]

Originally Posted by nicetaxcut

Is your advice from the standpoint of me being required to pay tax on my income?

Actually my advice is from the standpoint of not losing your home and possibly several years of your life.

[nicetaxcut]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

My advice (which I don't expect you to follow) is: file an honest W4 with your employer

what do you consider an honest w4?

Originally Posted by KarenM

If you believe you don't have to pay tax on your income, what's the issue?

Just don't pay it and let the chips fall where they may.

the issue is that clearly the IRS thugs do not stop their tactical battle to rob us, and doing nothing is not the best tactical response, so I'm looking for the best response and action.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by nicetaxcut

what do you consider an honest w4?

An oxymoron?

[nicetaxcut]

thanks mrg!