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Old 02-04-2008, 05:52 PM
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Dual citizenship here (Italy). Please define due notice? Thanks.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:00 PM
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... reservation of rights under UCC 1-207... I do believe that if anyone engages with any court using a bar attorney that all reservation of rights under UCC 1-207 are waived because the attorney is oathed to protect all interests other than ours. Thoughts please?

JG: If I recall, the whole UCC issue begins in 1938, Erie RR V Thompkins (sp?). Prior to that ruling, the Feds applied "common law" rules to such situations. Afterwards, the courts were to consider such claims under the UCC (as enacted in each State's code).

Now, folks, if you don't know what the "rules of the common law" are, you won't know what was changed in 1938.

Paraphrased, the common law is based on justice, reason and common sense, in contrast with civil law (strict rules and regulations). If justice is giving every man his due, and reason requires an injured party, then common sense requires that intent to do harm creates a criminal liability.

Is that clear?

After 1935, and almost universal enrollment into national so******m, participants ceased to absolutely own themselves, and their property.
What are such "persons" due?
And what is their creditor due?

Not unlike the 1830's, there were chattels claimed as property by their masters. When chattels got into a controversy, seeking damages, there was a real problem deciding who was the responsible party and under which rules.

In 1830, Slave A might injure Slave B, but they can't apply to the general courts for their remedy without their owner's involvement and a review of "his rules".

Frankly, that's why the current court system appears to ignore the constitution. It's not germane to the issue before the court. Is So******t slave A obligated or not?
If obligated, punish him for failure to perform to the strict rules and regulations.

Re: Individual Income Taxation, the liability appears to come from one's voluntary application for an account in Social Security and with usurers (Federal Reserve).
Re: Uniform Commercial Code, the liability appears to come from one's lack of common law standing. (See 7th amendment)
Re: Reservation of rights under UCC is nugatory if there is any evidence that the claimant had already surrendered rights in exchange for privileges of limited liability, pauperization, usury, insurance, and other abominations.

Hope that helps.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:16 PM
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The UCC didn't exist in 1938, and isn't mentioned in the Erie case. The case hinged on whether there was "federal common law" which a federal court would apply no matter where it, or the cause of action, was located, even if the state common law was different. The Supreme Court rejected the idea of a distinct federal common law, and held that the courts must apply the common law applicable to the state of the cause of action.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Reservation of rights under UCC is nugatory if there is any evidence that the claimant had already surrendered rights in exchange for privileges of limited liability, pauperization, usury, insurance, and other abominations.

Hope that helps.

"What about past issues with the IRS? Let's say you argued with the IRS in the past where you already went against the biblical principle in Matt. 5:25 of not arguing with your adversary. Is there any way to go back and revisit that past issue using her method? Yes, it is possible. Nothing is ever closed, because you can always correct your mistake by doing a conditional acceptance. The way you reopen the past issue is by asking the IRS for an accounting of the particular tax year in question. They will give you what they say you owe and at that point you accept it conditionally and go through the notarial protest process."

My question is a little more broad than that, but volatile nonetheless. It appears to me, that I need to reduce the wording to something a little less inflammatory, but introductory.

From http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/In...mercialLaw.htm

I got this from David Merrill and it gave me impetus.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:23 PM
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The UCC didn't exist in 1938, and isn't mentioned in the Erie case. The case hinged on whether there was "federal common law" which a federal court would apply no matter where it, or the cause of action, was located, even if the state common law was different. The Supreme Court rejected the idea of a distinct federal common law, and held that the courts must apply the common law applicable to the state of the cause of action.

Not buying anything you have to say Bernie.

Black ops on this forum too, yes?
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:26 PM
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Please define due notice?

JG: Three facts to establish title or defend title -
(1) Right to own
(2) Alienate title with lawful money
(3) No superior claim exists

(1) Legal age, status not impaired, not a human resource pledged as collateral on the unpayable national debt, etc., etc.

(2) Minimum 21 dollars (silver or gold). Thus one can claim the right to a trial by jury under the RULES of the Common Law, for any controversy about said property. (7th amendment)

(3) Give due notice in appropriate legal organ. For example, one may place a legal notice, asking all claimants to land (lat. / long.) to reply to Box XYZ (at the newspaper) within 30 days or forever WAIVE their claims. After 30 days, the newspaper will issue an affidavit. Then buy the property, assured that there is no superior claim that can lawfully be made.

(The common practice of recording of deed for realty is solely for due notice. There is no property right preserved by recording deed with court clerk. There is no law compelling the recording of private property transactions. Why make a public recording of a bill of sale for private property? It wouldn't be private anymore!)
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:37 PM
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Gain (usury) from securities IS definitely revenue taxable income.


Which is especially striking since non US persons are exempt from tax on these profits, especially 'capital gains', and depending on the treaty status, all others as well.

These really are bank rules for "domestic operators" who normally "conduct a trade or business" within (internal, inland) the federal venue. Which is why the overseer "re-venues", from the "citizen or resident" to the "government" (BANK)
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:38 PM
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Do you have a case cite and any documentation? Most grateful if you do.

US v James I. Hall US District Court, Southern District of Indiana, Evansville Division, Case No. EV 87-20-CR
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:53 PM
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The UCC didn't exist in 1938, and isn't mentioned in the Erie case. The case hinged on whether there was "federal common law" which a federal court would apply no matter where it, or the cause of action, was located, even if the state common law was different. The Supreme Court rejected the idea of a distinct federal common law, and held that the courts must apply the common law applicable to the state of the cause of action.

JG: Got me!
Mea Culpa.
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:41 PM
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From the Houston Chronicle:
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Feb. 20, 2008, 2:33PM
Government mounting crackdown on 'tax deniers'
Bloomberg News

The U.S. Justice Department, on the heels of a split verdict in its tax evasion prosecution of actor Wesley Snipes, is planning a crackdown on the so-called tax protester movement.

The protesters, or tax deniers, assert a constitutional right to avoid federal taxes, relying in part on century-old Supreme Court decisions. Their ranks are growing to include white-collar professionals, and they are costing the government millions of dollars in revenue, officials say.

"Too many people succumb to the fallacy, the illusion, that you don't have to pay any tax under any set of conditions," said Assistant Attorney General Nathan Hochman, the new head of the Justice Department's tax division. "That is a growing problem."

The movement has been given a boost by the faltering economy and politicians' vilification of the Internal Revenue Service. The Snipes verdict may also have helped.

The actor, best known for starring in action movies like "Blade" and "U.S. Marshals," was acquitted on Feb. 1 by a federal jury in Ocala, Florida, of felony fraud and conspiracy charges. He was convicted on three misdemeanor counts of failing to pay income taxes, and he faces up to three years in prison at his sentencing in April. He could also be forced to pay millions in back taxes and penalties.

Hochman declined to comment on the case, which was filed in 2006 and predated the department's new initiative.

Snipes's attorney, Robert Bernhoft, didn't return a call seeking comment.

The Internet has also spurred interest in the tax protest movement as firms sell strategies online and believers encourage others to sign on.

'Kooky' Theories

"Any kooky tax protester can put up their theories," said Jonathan R. Siegel, a professor at George Washington University's law school who has a Web site that debunks tax denier arguments. "It is much easier to get their message before a mass audience."

Tax protesters rely on a range of legal arguments, including that the Constitution's 16th Amendment giving Congress power to "lay and collect taxes on incomes" wasn't properly ratified.

Among other Supreme Court decisions, they cite an 1895 opinion that struck down a federal tax -- a ruling that predated the 16th amendment. The protesters also claim that wages aren't legal income, that only residents of the District of Columbia, U.S. territories or federal workers must pay income tax or that foreign, but not domestic, income is taxable.

Those arguments, though rejected by courts, are presented by tax deniers with legal citations and other historical evidence.

The advice is "easy to believe" and is often followed by the naive, Hochman said. "These cases pop up in virtually every jurisdiction in the United States."

Stepping Up Enforcement

The Justice Department plans to announce its stepped-up enforcement program next month. Officials will bring many new criminal and civil cases against promoters of the illegal schemes and their clients, Hochman said.

The details are still being worked out, he said, though it will involve working with U.S. attorneys' offices and the IRS. Enforcement "is going to be amped up," he said.

The agency already has had success in civil cases. Since 2001 it has obtained orders from judges barring more than 300 individuals from preparing tax returns for others or promoting illegal tax strategies.

In prosecuting criminal cases, the Justice Department must prove someone "knowingly and willfully" broke the law. Defendants can win acquittal by arguing they didn't know what they were doing was illegal.

High Conviction Rate

Still, according to agency statistics, prosecutors have a 97 percent conviction rate in tax denier cases. In civil and criminal cases, protesters can be ordered to pay back taxes, plus penalties and interest.

According to court documents, Snipes subscribed to some of the theories espoused by protesters. Two others charged in the case, Eddie Ray Kahn and Douglas Rosile, promoted a tax denial strategy known as the 861 argument, prosecutors said.

Protesters say that section 861 of the Internal Revenue Code only requires Americans to pay taxes on some types of foreign income. Snipes also tried to pay some of his taxes with fake checks, labeled "bill of exchange," a common tax denier tactic.

The government said Kahn and Rosile prepared and filed two amended tax returns for Snipes using the 861 theory and requesting almost $12 million in refunds. The IRS never paid. Snipes also failed to file his 1999 through 2004 federal returns as he made more than $38 million in income, prosecutors said.

Both Kahn and Rosile, an accountant whose license had been revoked, were convicted of conspiracy to defraud the IRS and face up to 10 years in prison.

'Con Artists' and 'Idealists'

Michael Minns, an attorney in Houston who has represented defendants in tax cases, said tax deniers tend to fall into two categories: "con artists" or "crooks" who market the bogus strategies, and "idealists" who believe the schemes are valid.

The Justice Department crackdown, Minns said, is going to "put a lot of nuts in jail" without addressing larger concerns such as corporations using illegal tax shelters or wealthy people moving money overseas to avoid taxes.

"What they are really doing is going after the victims and leaving the billionaires alone," he said.

www.bloomberg.com
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