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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
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Please do not equate the idiots @ givemeliberty.org in any way to echo, be similar,synonymous with or have anything to do with what Vic Beck teaches.

Please forget that you ever heard anything of Vic Beck because you definitely do not comprehend his teachings.
you may have listened to his audios but you definitely do not comprehend it, or you are deliberately misleading the others on this forum. Dis-information possibly?????


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If you need help with forms and direction go to:

http://www.givemeliberty.org/

They have reps for your state. Mine send me everything on cd for a donation and so far it echoes what Vic Beck says regarding sovereignty. All along when people talked about redemption, I thought that they were bible beaters but I know better now.

Good luck with that. All I started another site at:

http://groups.google.com/group/sjrfc

There is opinion that there is other remedy aside from copyright (+) and that is abatement cancellatura but please keep in mind that I am not up to speed on this as of yet and it is not my primary focus and it for you to decide what is best for you.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:05 PM
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Try www.losthorizons.com

Please keep in mind that the author is going round and round with the IRS presently himself. Did you capture your STRAWMAN?

Also please see http://www.suijuris.net/forum/genera...-iii-book.html

Some of the information is outdated with new law and that is by design. Verify your contentions and then kick their asses.

First off please tell me how one can capture "their" strawman. Who owns the strawman? Is it the government? If the government owns it (they created it) then you cannot capture it no matter how hard you try.

Second, givemeliberty.org in no way teaches what Vic teaches. That is the biggest crock I have ever heard. It is obvious you have not listened to Vic or if you have you not comprehended one word of what he teaches.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:26 PM
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I might have gotten the website wrong and it may not be givemeliberty.org. I will have to research this further.

I am sick of your sh*t Rentiap. I have had you give me grief enough and I HAVE TAKEN IT TOO! I don't take sh*t from anyone normally and I let you do it over and over again and I maintained and bit my tongue.

BLOW ME! You are ignored.

And as for disinformation, I won't be giving any information any more then. Since you are not willing to post to help this woman, and this is what we should be doing anyway, then I guess no one will.

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Old 02-18-2008, 10:00 PM
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The IRS sent my husband's employer an LTR 2800C. By the time we received a copy of the letter it was too late to reply. They changed the marital status to single and withholding allowances to 0. What can we do about this? Or, isn't there anything we can do. I thought the employer and IRS didn't have the right to change the w-4.
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Hello gracie,
The IRS will tell you if you ask that they are a "collection agency".
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/125704-post44.html
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:44 PM
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BLOW ME! You are ignored.
Don't take it to hard rentiap, we all feel your pain.

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And as for disinformation, I won't be giving any information any more then.
Nothing to worry about here as 0 + 0 = 0, no harm, no foul eh?

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:02 PM
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Hello gracie,
The IRS will tell you if you ask that they are a "collection agency".
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/125704-post44.html

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Knowing that IRS is by corporate charter and their own admission a debt collection agency this all seems to make sense.

Where, and how is this verified?

Where, and how do I find IRS' corporate charter?

Where, and how do I find "their own admission" that IRS is "a debt collection agency?"

To have this validated as fact, in fact, would be most helpful.

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Old 02-19-2008, 02:19 PM
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Don't take it to hard rentiap, we all feel your pain.


Nothing to worry about here as 0 + 0 = 0, no harm, no foul eh?

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Old 02-19-2008, 03:06 PM
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Don't take it to hard (No further comment needed here )rentiap, we all feel your pain.


Nothing to worry about here as 0 + 0 = 0, no harm, no foul eh?

gldskr
Oh Gosh I am heart broken by such horrific notification that some artificial entity posting to another artificial entity needs a Blow job.
And all this time sheisapsycho has been promoting herself as a woman, now this entity is saying that she is a he.

Andy are you coming out of the closet?
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:42 AM
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I might have gotten the website wrong and it may not be givemeliberty.org. I will have to research this further.

I am sick of your sh*t Rentiap. I have had you give me grief enough and I HAVE TAKEN IT TOO! I don't take sh*t from anyone normally and I let you do it over and over again and I maintained and bit my tongue.

BLOW ME! You are ignored.

And as for disinformation, I won't be giving any information any more then. Since you are not willing to post to help this woman, and this is what we should be doing anyway, then I guess no one will.

I am very sorry this has caused an argument. I do appreciate sheisaceo's help. He was after all the only one responding to my question. I do research information given to me by anyone so I can make an informed decision. I would like to find documentation that the IRS is a "collection agency". I still have the same question, how to stop the LTR 2800c.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:46 PM
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I am very sorry this has caused an argument. I do appreciate sheisaceo's help. He was after all the only one responding to my question. I do research information given to me by anyone so I can make an informed decision. I would like to find documentation that the IRS is a "collection agency". I still have the same question, how to stop the LTR 2800c.
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No worries gracie! I take this from them all the time. BTW, I'm female. This might be another instance where you can just call the IRS and ask. I do this (well I used to anyway) all of the time and sometimes I get really good results. You can call Ms Pederson at 18008291040 ext 3505032 I would not tell her that someone gave you her number because then the IRS might come down on her for it. Just tell her that someone transferred you to her and just ask what the ramifications are plus what the options relative to this would be. I have learned to always ask and then ask again when I need to. Good luck!

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