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Old 02-19-2008, 01:29 PM
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Regulations vs statue

I am looking for case sites that talk about the difference between regs and statutes. Specifically ones that talk about how the regs are not law and only the statutes are the law. Also isn't there a case that say the regs are for agencies to use and they are bound by them, not the public?

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Old 02-25-2008, 01:32 AM
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I know this isn't what you wanted, but I just hate seeing threads with NO replies! Here's some to chew on. These are from Becraft. No warranty on these, take them at your peril.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/Regulations.htm

Here's some from a guy named Gary J. Bryant that I found interesting. Again, take them at your own risk.

XXI U. S. SUPREME COURT AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS

The Supreme Court has repeatedly established that regulations are necessary to implement a statute. The Supreme Court of the United States of America, in California Bankers Association v Shultz, 94 S.Ct. 1494 (1974), said "...the statute is not self-executing, were the Secretary to take no action whatever under his authority there would be no possibility of civil or criminal sanctions being imposed on anyone....we think it important to note that the Acts civil and penalties attach only upon the violation of regulations promulgated by the Secretary; if the Secretary were to do nothing the Act itself would impose no penalties on anyone..."

The United States government stated in this instant case, "...The government urges that since only those who violate these regulations may incur civil and criminal penalties, it is the actual regulations issued by the Secretary of the Treasury, and not the broad authorizing language of the statute, which is to be tested against the standards of the Fourth Amendment; and that when so tested they are valid."

In United States v. Mersky, 361 U.S. 431, 437, 438, 80 S.Ct. 459 (1960) the Court had before it a statute which contained the words, "The Secretary may by regulations..." concerning this language, the Court stated as follows: "Here the statute is not complete by itself since it merely declares the range of its operation and leaves to its progeny the means to be utilized in effectuation of its command...once promulgated, these regulations, called for by the statute itself, have the force of law, and violations thereof incur criminal prosecutions, just as if all the details had been incorporated into the Congressional language. The result is that neither the statute nor the regulations are complete without the other, and only together do they have any force. In effect, therefore the construction of one necessarily involves the construction of the other."

In the case of United States of America v. Murphy, 809 F.2d. 1427 9th Cir (1987) regarding the Currency Reporting Act, the Court stated that the Currency Reporting Act is not self executing and imposes no reporting duties with respect to currency transactions until implementing regulations have been promulgated. See 31 U.S.C.A. § 5311, et seq. The Court also further stated, quoting California Bankers Association v. Shultz, the reporting act is not self executing. It can impose no reporting duties until implementing regulations have been promulgated. Dodd v. United States, 223 F. Supp. 785 (1963) said for Federal tax purposes, regulations govern. Lyeth v. Hoey, 1938, 305 U.S. 188, 59 S.Ct. 155, 83 L.Ed. 119. Curley v. United States of America, 791 F. Supp. 52 (E.D.N.Y. 1992) at page 55 says "failure to adhere to agency regulations may amount to denial of due process if the regulations are required by The Constitution or a statute." See Arzanipour v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 866 F.2d. 743, 746, 5th Cir. 1989 - Cert denied 493 U.S. 814, 110 S.Ct. 63, 107 L.Ed.2d. 30 (1989)

In the case of United States v. Renis, 794 F.2d. 506 (9th Cir. 1986) concerning Bank Secrecy Act violations and the promulgation of Form 4789 in the Federal Register as a substantive regulation, the court stated at page 508: "Form 4789, however, was never promulgated pursuant to the rule making requirements of the Administrative Procedures Act. 5 U.S.C. § 553. United States v. Richter, 610 F.Supp. 480, 489 and n.14 (D.C.Ill. 1985). Consequently, Form 4789 is not effective as a regulation. See United States v. $200,000 in United States Currency, 590 F. Supp. 866 (S.D.Fla 1984). Criminal penalties for failure to report currency transactions can attach only upon violation of the regulations promulgated by the Secretary. See California Bankers Association v. Shultz, 416 U.S. 21, 26, 94 S.Ct. 1494, 1500, 39 L.Ed.2d. 812 (1974)"

In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Pennsylvania Chem. Corp., 411 U.S. 655, 36 L.Ed.2d. 567, 93 S.Ct. 1804, P. 581 the court stated: "Moreover, although the regulations did not of themselves purport to create or define the statutory offense in question, see United States v. Mersky, 361 U.S. 431, 4 L.Ed.2d. 423, 80 S.Ct. 459 (1960), it is certainly true that their designed purpose was to guide persons as to the meaning and requirements of the statute. Thus, to the extent the regulations deprived PICCO of fair warning as to what conduct the government intended to make criminal, we think there can be no doubt that traditional notions of fairness inherent in our system of criminal justice prevent the government from proceeding with the prosecution."

The United States Supreme Court stated in United States v. Vogel Fertilizer Co., 455 U.S. 16, 70 L.Ed.2d. 792, 102 S.Ct. 821: "The framework for analysis is refined by consideration of the source of the authority to promulgate the regulation at issue. The Commissioner has promulgated Treasury Reg and § 1.1563-1(a)(3) interpreting this statute only under his general authority to 'prescribe all needful rules and regula45tions.' 26 U.S.C. § 7805(a) [26 U.S.C.S. § 7805(a). Accordingly, 'we owe the interpretation less difference than a regulation issued under a specific grant of authority to define a statutory term or prescribe a method of executing a statutory provision.' Rowan Cos. v. United States, 452 U.S. 247, 253, 68 L.Ed. 814, 101 S.Ct. 2288 (1981). In addition Treas. Reg § 1.1563-1(a)(3) purports to do no more than add a clarifying gloss on a term - brother - sister control group - that has already been defined with considerable specificity by Congress. The Commissioners authority is consequently more circumscribed than would be the case if Congress had used a term 'so general. . . .as to render an interpretative regulation appropriate." National Muffler Dealers Assn. Inc. v. United States, 440 U.S. 472, 476, 59 L.Ed.2d. 519, 99 S.Ct. 1304 (1979), quoting Helvering v. R. J. Reynolds Co., 306 U.S. 110, 114, 83 L.Ed. 536, 59 S.Ct. 423 (1939).

In the case of United States v. Oliver L. North, Case Number 88-0080-02GAG (D.D.C. November 18, 1988) in the pleadings filed in Oliver North's case, the Department of Justice set forth its' position concerning the proper scope of § 371, conspiracies in a manner inconsistent with § 1956 of the Bank Secrecy Act. Mr. North was exonerated on charges of Money Laundering and violations of the Bank Secrecy Act due to the rulings in California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz, Supra.

Congress, the Court said, thus fixed "a primary standard" and committed to the Secretary of the Treasury "The mere executive to effectuate the legislative policy declared in the statute." "Congress legislated on the subject as far as was reasonably practicable, and from the necessities of the case was compelled to leave to the executive officials the duty of bringing about the result pointed out by the statute." see Red "C" Oil Co. v. Board of Agriculture of North Carolina, 222 U.S. 380, 394, 32 S.Ct. 152, 56 L.Ed. 240.

Here's my favorite.

“Treasury regulations are binding on government as well as on taxpayer.”
(Source: Brafman v. United States 384 F.2d 863 (1967))
Yeah, right!!!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:30 PM
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"The Service IS BOUND by the regulations." [IRM § 4.10.7.2.4]

"The Federal Income Tax Regulations (Regs.) are the OFFICIAL Treasury Department interpretation of the Internal Revenue Code." [IRM § 4.10.7.2.3.1]


these are the only two that I have..
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