Property Tax

[cowboy]

Hello,
I hope this is the correct section.

I'm wondering if there is research and documentation concerning property tax.
I realize there may be differences between states and how they incorporated them, but I assume the gist if how they did it was the same.

So what I'm interested in is the nexus or key point on which this hangs i.e., what is the key point that allows for the taxation.
And of course the obvious follow thru would be to disconnect that point.

Any info ?

p.s. is it just me or is navigating around here difficult ?

For instance, at the main page, under the "forum" tab, when you click it nothing shows ??

[amenmesse]

Originally Posted by cowboy

Hello,
I hope this is the correct section.

I'm wondering if there is research and documentation concerning property tax.
I realize there may be differences between states and how they incorporated them, but I assume the gist if how they did it was the same.

So what I'm interested in is the nexus or key point on which this hangs i.e., what is the key point that allows for the taxation.
And of course the obvious follow thru would be to disconnect that point.

Any info ?

p.s. is it just me or is navigating around here difficult ?

For instance, at the main page, under the "forum" tab, when you click it nothing shows ??

Don't listen to anything I say, I'm just a pinhead. In the phrase property tax I learned to back track to the statute to see what is being taxed. In my county we had a "personal property tax" that was assessed against stock and bond gains if my memory is correct. In some case I think we see the objects of property and lose site of the fact "property is a legal claim". In every situation I am aware of if there is a tax then the government in some form is helping enable the relationship. This is the nexus foundation.

In relation to land and houses property taxes in the 1910's in Pa were founded on mortgages. No mortgage no property tax. On the other hand the roman system is about putting land into trust and then leaseing the use of land. The lease was for three types of contract. 1. Uses- to use the land to live on, 2. Fructus-the profit from the land, and 3. Usufructory which was the use and profit of the land. The government as trustee had the legal duty to protect the land and its uses for creditors and future users so it had a nexus for taxation.

p.s. yes it is very difficult to navigate here. At times its like sailing thru dried mud pits in the sahara desert. But hey, some of the company here is just grand.

[ThomPaine]

plenty of info here on property taxes, land patents, titles in allodium, etc. just search around and you should find everything you need, as it has all been discussed a million times before..

thom

[cowboy]

Hello, yes I see there are a lot of discussions about it.
Sometimes the threads can get cumbersome as they drag on.... just wondering if there was a definitive approach, template or "win"



p.s. I did try downloading a file from the "download" section, doesn't seem to work ? any ideas

[ThomPaine]

use google as your search engine and limit the results to this site using something like site:www.suijuris.net

google advanced also gives you an option to only return results from a specific site. Take out words you dont want like '-food' and be specific with quotes like "land patent"

Research Augustus Blackstone, tons of info on Land Patents from him. Sometimes search doesnt work well here and neither does the DL section or the LRG section. Not sure why but its been that way for a while. Threads disappear from time to time as well so bookmark stuff or save entire pages in HTML..

The tax stems from the property being part of the system, recorded at the municipal/corporate county, sales are closed by BAR attorneys, building permits were applied for at the county or city, forms are filed with the several government offices (HUD, etc) and of course mortgage companies, title and insurance companies, banks, etc are all tied in with the FED and the Treasury. SO, if you want to get out of the system, you have to get all the way out. Its like being partially pregnant.....can't happen....

Thom