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Old 04-28-2008, 11:57 AM
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Lightbulb Judicial Courts are 3rd party collector in commerce

Hello everyone,

A question a couple of you may have posed in your head:
Is the NC Judicial Courts just a 3rd party debt collector providing services in commerce?

The answer is a big YES!

Here is just one of their sites for Services aka "benefits", therefore you are consenting to
benefits in such a way - http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/sentservices/index.html
" Do you need rehabilitation? yes, we can provide those services, just come on down."

The Sentencing services is one of the branches on the Tree of the STATE Corporation just look how it is listed on Manta.com
Judiciary Courts Of The State Of North Carolina
Year Started:1789
State of Incorporation:NC
Location Type:Headquarters
Parent Company: State Of North Carolina

How about that, right in the same year, moments after the Organic Constitution was ratified a Corporation pops up and then a Sub-Corp listed above pumped up and ready to service benefits to it's Citizens.
Kind of makes you wonder if you been made a fool of that we had real government after the creation of that Organic Constitution, the answer clearly here is "NO". All that Constitution did was create a charter for the corporation, but in the same motion you can hold
those corporate employees responsible for violating the charter.
Now you see here, the Constitution was not for the Sovereign, it was for the corporation and to hold the corporation accountable for commercial crimes, because it is all in commerce as you will
see here:

27 CFR 72.11
Commercial crimes. Any of the following types of crimes (Federal or State): Offenses against the revenue laws; burglary; counterfeiting;
forgery; kidnapping; larceny; robbery; illegal sale or possession of deadly weapons; prostitution (including soliciting, procuring, pandering, white slaving, keeping house of ill fame, and like offenses);
extortion; swindling and confidence games; and attempting to commit, conspiring to commit, or compounding any of the foregoing crimes.
Addiction to narcotic drugs and use of marihuana will be treated as if such were commercial crime.

What we can see here now is that our current societies
structure is based on commerce, identifying profits and
taxing those profits to provide benefits.
The only way to escape this as a citizen is through proper administrative procedure to expose the fraud, light onto darkness. Once you have not received a proper response then you can do into a commercial action such as the use of a Request to Cancel assessment based on the evidence
and if they don't then that is evidence that can be used
against them in a counter-complaint:
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 9, 12 & 13

Of course if your clever enough to think outside of the box and learn some legal maneuvers, one who is a true sovereign without any private agreements or contracts in place stands on a more firmer foundation for defaulting them on any proof of claim because there was no breach on their part for obeying regulations as long as the public safety was not injured.

"Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because the wrongdoer is clothed with the authority of state law, is action taken 'under color of' state law." United States v. Classic, 313 U.S. 299, 326

Act first not last: When the words of a statute are unambiguous, then this first canon is also the last: "judicial inquiry is complete."
Rubin v. United States, (1981); see also Ron Pair Enterprises, supra, at 241.

Comment: I went to the local office of the UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE and requested an International mail, return receipt requested card. It is PS Form 2865 and MAGICALLY it is delivered by POSTAL SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! SAYS SO, RIGHT ON THE CARD.
The opportunity to become a citizen of the United States is said to be merely a privilege and not a right. Tutun v. U.S., 270 U.S. 568, 578 (1926). [33 Or. L. Rev. 7, Fn. 24].

If the wayward courts had only realized that a "license" is not a grant of a new "privilege," but, on the contrary, a restriction on a "right" already existing, all this absurd confusion, with resulting deprivation of constitutional protections, would have been avoided. [33 Or. L. Rev. 15].

Jurisdiction

Title 5 USC §556(d) states as follows: "When jurisdiction is challenged the burden of proof is on the government."
"Jurisdiction once challenged cannot be assumed and must be decided."
Maine v. Thiboutot 100 S. Ct. 2502
"...Federal jurisdiction cannot be assumed, but must be clearly shown." Brooks v. Yawkey 200 F. 2d. 633
"The law requires PROOF OF JURISDICTION to appear on the Record of the administrative agency and all administrative proceedings." Hagans v. Lavine, 415 U.S. 533

Please pass this forward to your fellow warriors for liberty. thank you.

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Old 04-28-2008, 04:09 PM
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Are they really collectors? Seems they are only an enabling arm through their judgments.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:31 PM
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Are they really collectors? Seems they are only an enabling arm through their judgments.

Yes, seems to be a 2 fold trap in that way.
If you have not done your commercial administrative processes and defaulted them or have done a proper rebutal to their replies you cannot call the shots and your butt is toasted up an slathered as being incompetent.
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