Tom Cryer Victory

[trooper2ls]

Originally Posted by phreeman2003

This comes from a recent thread attachment by either David or Trooper (my apologies, if I credit the wrong member), which reads 1933 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 83 (I believe 83 would be it's page number), across the top of the page.

Now, the above plus David's often referenced 12 U.S.C. sec. 411 makes total logical sense, as there's no lawyerly twisting or turning about.

Congressional Record is Congressional record.. Many of us point to the same source.. the horses mouth. No credit is required for pointing out the obvious.

..J

[David Merrill]

As well as the models about FRNs being stock certificates and the Fed Act of 1913 was written solely for banks.

Psholtz;

I was arguing with Shoonra and Quatlosers about removing NOFTLs when they were filed improperly - mainly with a Treasury agent called AndyK.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#fedln

I think it was Judge Roy Bean who kept pointing out an IRS code about the lien simply arising from law. The Notice of Federal Tax Lien is simply for third parties to be aware that the IRS has in its own mind won the administrative debate in the form of a civil judgment - usually by curing out their Ninety-Day Letter.

The lien arises from the fact that you used private credit from the Fed to buy your stuff or your home. Since you did not use lawful money, that leaves your bought possessions collateral effectively.

Originally Posted by US v Rickman; 638 F.2d 182

In the exercise of that power Congress has declared that Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender and are redeemable in lawful money.

and

Originally Posted by US v Ware; 608 F.2d 400

United States notes shall be lawful money, and a legal tender in payment of all debts, public and private, within the United States, except for duties on imports and interest on the public debt.

Thinking back a couple years, Shoonra falsified about SoS filing requirements likely to throw me off the proper track.

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/106610-post62.html
Shoonra falsifying

Too bad I fell for it. However, some suitors actually got NOFTLs released by showing a Certificate of Search from USDC with a UCC-11 form. I was just tying in the filing requirements of the county clerk and recorder and secretary of state into the mix with those success stories.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[mertensv16]

Originally Posted by trooper2ls

Congressional Record is Congressional record.. Many of us point to the same source.. the horses mouth.

No, if it's coming from Congress it's the other end of the horse.

[trooper2ls]

Originally Posted by mertensv16

No, if it's coming from Congress it's the other end of the horse.

Now that is funny! My mistake.. LOL!

..J

[psholtz]

Thanks David.

I find it interesting too that the U.S. Notes used to carry precisely that language that you cite from US v Ware; 608 F.2d 400 as well:

http://usrarecurrency.com/SmallSizeLegalTenderNotes.htm

Any ideas as to why the US Notes cannot be used to pay for imports or interest on the public debt?

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

http://www.truthattack.org/CRYER--MotiontoDismiss.pdf

strongly urge all to study this- very well written. That a 32nd degree mason wrote it shows that:

1. they knew all along the whole tax thing was a scam

2. now they are getting ready to crash the system- look for more and more "IRS losses".

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by farmer_giles_of_ham

http://www.truthattack.org/CRYER--MotiontoDismiss.pdf

strongly urge all to study this- very well written. That a 32nd degree mason wrote it shows that:

1. they knew all along the whole tax thing was a scam

2. now they are getting ready to crash the system- look for more and more "IRS losses".

Thanks for the information.

I am a “non-filer” for the a similar reason I am a “non-murderer”, because I it goes against my conscience (4th, 5th, 13th Amendment, etc.). Of course, the government wishing to enslave the people and deprive them of will, may feel that it has the right to force one to file against one’s conscience, just as the government has numerous court decisions that says they can force one to fight and die against one’s will when the government imposes a draft.

Originally Posted by givemeliberty.org

POINT 3: The People cannot grant any Government an authority to forcibly seize the labor of another Citizen, because the People, individually or collectively, DO NOT possess that power themselves. The Right to the fruit of one's Labor is an unalienable Right that may not be taxed. To do so is slavery.

No doubt the draft issue is of a greater magnitude, in that one is forced to violate the rights of others in the most violent fashion mankind can design. Yet, both represent the principal of using force against those that the government has no right, and the latter (draft) is enforcing crime against those who don’t want to do this sort of thing, in addition to being used against a people who may not deserve the force being applied against them. There are numerous examples of this over the past century, Vietnam, being one of the more recent cases.

For the record I have asked the government why I must file when it goes against my conscience to reveal this information. I am still waiting for a response.

[indago]

BOBT12 wrote:

For the record I have asked the government why I must file when it goes against my conscience to reveal this information. I am still waiting for a response.

Oh, you'll get a response...

They want you to TOADY