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Old 04-12-2008, 06:57 AM
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Danger! Citizen and Resident

As seen in the attachment, on pages 5,6, and 7, a thorough analysis by a state agent on the use of the terms Citizen and Resident. BEWARE.

Jerry Carlos

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Old 04-12-2008, 07:20 AM
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The book the "RedAmendment" addresses this clearly. Good stuff, thanks.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:43 AM
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How about: Fiduciary Administrator ?
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:05 AM
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To revoke your
Illinois residency status, you must physically leave the State with the intent to
establish residency in another state. 86 Ill. Admin. Code 100.3020(b).

Lie.

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b) Individuals. The purpose of the general definition is to include in the category of individuals who are taxable on their entire net income, regardless of whether derived from sources within or without Illinois, all individuals who are physically present in Illinois enjoying the benefit of its government, except those individuals who are here temporarily, and to exclude from this category, all individuals, who, although domiciled in Illinois, are outside Illinois for other than temporary and transitory purposes, and, hence, do not obtain the benefit of Illinois government. If an individual acquires the status of a resident by virtue of being physically present in Illinois for other than temporary or transitory purposes, he remains a resident even though temporarily absent from Illinois. If, however, he leaves Illinois for other than temporary or transitory purposes, he thereupon ceases to be a resident. If an individual is domiciled in Illinois, he remains a resident unless he is outside Illinois for other than temporary or transitory purposes

This doesn't say anything about "intent to establish residency in another state"

It also says you have to be enjoying government benefits.

Residency is also the intent to live at a particular place permanently.

More BS from the corporate puppets...
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:13 AM
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Lie.



This doesn't say anything about "intent to establish residency in another state"

It also says you have to be enjoying government benefits.

Residency is also the intent to live at a particular place permanently.

More BS from the corporate puppets...

No argument with your analysis. The purpose of the post was simply to verify the "how" of their manner of thinking. "watch your friends close, but watch your enemies closer".

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Old 04-29-2008, 12:29 PM
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No argument with your analysis. The purpose of the post was simply to verify the "how" of their manner of thinking. "watch your friends close, but watch your enemies closer".

Jerry Carlos

And the attorneys on this board wonder why they are called names. They will fabricate legal disabilities and rape the common law for $$$.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:39 PM
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And the attorneys on this board wonder why they are called names. They will fabricate legal disabilities and rape the common law for $$$.

No one on this board has actually shown himself to be an "attorney" or "lawyer," that I know of.

There has been one CLAIM that I know of.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:00 PM
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That is old news. Rehased that privately with someone who contacted me via this forum.

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in your letter dated December 23, 1997, you referred to yourself as one of the "...sovereign Citizens of one of the 50 states of the Union." By using the word "citizen", you are admitting that you are either a citizen of the United States or a resident of the State of Illinois (the state in which you live), or both. Otherwise, the term "citizen" would have no meaning because a nonresident alien cannot be a citizen of the United States.

In other words they are telling him that he somehow contradicted himself or isnt making any sense and or that his statements in the letter show his incompetence--maybe yes he has zeal and a bunch of feel-good notions...but they are actually doing him a favor and telling him something quite educational: DO NOT PASS GO DO NOT COLLECT $200!

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If possible, please incorporate it into whatever file or record system you may have on (probably based upon my SSN).
He has an SSN or doesnt?

Also, the addy on the envelop he opened probably was like:

DUNCAN J HEINZ
500 MAIN ST
DURAND, IL 61024.

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In both of your letters to the Department, your referred to the ""Illinois Republic". Please be advised that there is no such entity known as the "Illinois Republic". The State Constitution is labeled the "Constitution Of The State of Illinois" (emphasis added). The first line of the State Constitution clearly states "We, the People of the State of Illinois" (emphasis added). On April 18, 1818, the United States Congress passed enabling legislation to allow the people of the Illinois territory "to form . . . a constitution and state government. . . and when formed, shall be admitted into the Union upon the same footing with the original states, in all respects whatever."
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