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Old 04-28-2008, 11:28 PM
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Lightbulb How to properly create a withholding Exemption Certificate

Find out the right way to fill out an exemption certificate, we have had a couple people actually get somewhat of a thank you letter from the Internal Revenue Service when the employer submitted it to them for verification.

Whoever dreamed up the 99 exemptions method should have their sanity checked, you will see why.

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Old 04-29-2008, 01:53 AM
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... we have had a couple people actually get somewhat of a thank you letter from the Internal Revenue Service when the employer submitted it to them for verification.
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JG: They had better thank the fools who submitted said document. It's fraud, and an open invitation to a future weenie roast - in Tax court.

Sigh.

Reasoning: Only account holders, duly enumerated, are "persons liable" for the "income tax" derived from the Social Security Act of 1935, which imposes an "income tax" on WAGES.

In addition, as "contributors" (FICA), they are equally liable to pay the impossible national debt. Thus making worthless notes (FRNs) into LEGAL TENDER. Obligated parties can never object to the tender of their own notes. Ergo, their wages, paid in worthless notes, of no par value, rise to the face value.

And if they have an open, interest bearing account with a bank *(usurers), they have signed an agreement to provide an annual financial statement in the form the bank requests.
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/130516-post49.html

And as we all should know, the U.S. governor of the World Bank, IMF, etc, etc, is the Secretary of Treasury, who shall not be paid by the U.S. government (see Title 22 USC Sec 286a, et seq)

22 USC Sec. 286a Appointments
(a) Governors and executive directors; term of office
The President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint a governor of the Fund who shall also serve as a governor of the (World) Bank, and an executive director of the (International Monetary) Fund and an executive director of the Bank. ...
(d) Compensation for services (1) No person shall be entitled to receive any salary or other compensation from the United States for services as a Governor, executive director, councilor, alternate, or associate.
(2) The United States executive director of the Fund shall not be compensated by the Fund at a rate in excess of the rate ...

According to page 494 of the U.S. Government Manual, 1993/1994 edition:
"In addition , the Secretary (of Treasury) has many responsibilities as chief financial officer of the Government. The Secretary serves as Chairman pro tempore of the Economic Policy council and as U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, and the African Development Bank."

WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE "BANK"?

The Secretary of Treasury, who shall not be paid by the U.S. government.



Other "small points"
Perjury jurat is limited to those who are IN government.
An address (domestic to the United States) is claimed.
Residency is claimed.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:20 AM
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JG: They had better thank the fools who submitted said document. It's fraud, and an open invitation to a future weenie roast - in Tax court.
Reasoning: Only account holders, duly enumerated, are "persons liable" for the "income tax" derived from the Social Security Act of 1935, which imposes an "income tax" on WAGES.
In addition, as "contributors" (FICA), they are equally liable to pay the impossible national debt. Thus making worthless notes (FRNs) into LEGAL TENDER. Obligated parties can never object to the tender of their own notes. Ergo, their wages, paid in worthless notes, of no par value, rise to the face value.
And if they have an open, interest bearing account with a bank *(usurers), they have signed an agreement to provide an annual financial statement in the form the bank requests.
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/130516-post49.html
And as we all should know, the U.S. governor of the World Bank, IMF, etc, etc, is the Secretary of Treasury, who shall not be paid by the U.S. government (see Title 22 USC Sec 286a, et seq)
22 USC Sec. 286a Appointments
(a) Governors and executive directors; term of office
The President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint a governor of the Fund who shall also serve as a governor of the (World) Bank, and an executive director of the (International Monetary) Fund and an executive director of the Bank. ...
(d) Compensation for services (1) No person shall be entitled to receive any salary or other compensation from the United States for services as a Governor, executive director, councilor, alternate, or associate.
(2) The United States executive director of the Fund shall not be compensated by the Fund at a rate in excess of the rate ...
According to page 494 of the U.S. Government Manual, 1993/1994 edition:
"In addition , the Secretary (of Treasury) has many responsibilities as chief financial officer of the Government. The Secretary serves as Chairman pro tempore of the Economic Policy council and as U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, and the African Development Bank."
WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE "BANK"?
The Secretary of Treasury, who shall not be paid by the U.S. government.
Other "small points"
Perjury jurat is limited to those who are IN government.
An address (domestic to the United States) is claimed.
Residency is claimed.

Good to see your well studied, but most people do not have the resources or the will power to go cold turkey and cancel out of everything your speaking of here, because that is what it would take to avoid all these scenarios.
For several years I have studied too and see what lengths people are not willing to go to for their own liberty so for the past few years here I have been teaching people how to successfully be a responsible Fiduciary Administrator of the account that was created when an application was submitted for a Birth Certificate. Nobody who has followed my training to the exact processes has ever gone to jail or lost property, it is usually those who think my material is too far fetched to believe and use someone else's material before they wake up an realize I was correct when they find themselves locked up or property taken they come crawling back.
Although I have been locked up in jail myself, I do not teach anyone anything unless I have done it myself successfully.

Another thing is that I do not charge people a dime for my labor, I just ask for donations to give what is in their heart what the information is worth to them.
If you do not agree with it, nobody is holding a gun to your head to use it.

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Old 05-02-2008, 10:19 PM
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I would like to thank Ms. Sanchez for following the rule of law.

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Old 05-03-2008, 05:29 AM
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Yeah, I mean it's clearly possible to submit an "exemption certificate" and avoid withholding. While for one reason or another, a ¡person' may be "liable" om general, that doesnt mean at that moment there is any "taxable gross income" for which to account. The form is just saying that none was received last year and none is expected this year.

We can also make certain reservations, clarifications, etc. How about:

"witness my hand and seal, all rights reserved w/o prejudice: secured transaction w/ recourse for loan proceeds w/ mutual caution policy-all transfers final, no warranty express or implied"
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:33 AM
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Then at the end of the year, if your just a laborer for someone else providing the service, you follow up with the material from the post in this group titled:

" Prepare to be challenged on what you thought you knew about the Income Tax assessment "
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:30 AM
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jeagas68,

So, is that an actual red stamp on the W-4 that states "26 USC 3402(n)"? Can we just write it on their instead?
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Old 05-03-2008, 03:59 PM
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jeagas68,

So, is that an actual red stamp on the W-4 that states "26 USC 3402(n)"? Can we just write it on their instead?

Yes as long as you use a red ink pen and box it in like that. One of the local students here also added on the stamp 15 USC 17 after a comma. That is ok too if you would like to add a little juice to the meat.
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And then there is this one in the book, The Federal Zone;
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:07 PM
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Find out the right way to fill out an exemption certificate, we have had a couple people actually get somewhat of a thank you letter from the Internal Revenue Service when the employer submitted it to them for verification.

Whoever dreamed up the 99 exemptions method should have their sanity checked, you will see why.

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Noting about Title 15 Section 17, Labor Organizations;

From Merriam-Webster - Organizations
2 a: association, society <charitable organizations> b: an administrative and functional structure (as a business or a political party); also : the personnel of such a structure

The rest is obvious, if 2 or more people are providing labor for an employer, you have a labor organization.
Not just for Unions anymore.
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