IRS LETTER CP 22E

I recieved a letter from the Dep of T and it is headed "We changed your account".& The letter says that the changes&resulted from an examination of&my tax return.& That would definitely be a&lie because&I did not file any paperwork w/them for the tax period (2001) they are addressing.& From what I can tell, the changes they are referring to are additions (surprise) in penalties.& The codes that they site which allow them to do this are all penalties codes, not that I make any sense out of any of it.& They then go on to give a total of what they say SAND owes them.


I guess my question is, what is the best response to them?& I have been letting SAP handle all the letters, but I am wanting to take some actions myself.& That would mean doing some research, so if anyone can tell me where to look, I am ready!& Thanks....


Sand

[wirlwind]

Sand,


I'm just learning this stuff too, and don't understand a lot of it.& Try www.famguardian.org .& there is a lot of information there.& Also read through some of the old posts on the forum here, and check out some of the links in the link section.& Family Guardian I think may be a link in the link section.


Wirlwind

You don't need to respond to a CP22E.& I received a few CP 22E's back in January. I chose not to respond. The sooner you respond the sooner they will respond back to you, so if you need time, don't respond.& About 10 days ago I received FOUR 'Urgent! We intend to levy' notices. I will not respond to those either.& The next notices will be Notice of Intent to Levy and I will have 30 days to respond to those.& They don't know where I am working and probably will not find out for at least 6 more months.&


I just got off the phone with a guy named Ed Bruning from the livefreenow.org.& He said the sooner you respond to their notices the sooner they&know what your position is and if you are protesting they will send the next notice out without delay.


Basically, my strategy is to put them off indefinetly until I set myself up so that I cannot be levied.& Ed Bruner said that once you get the 30 day Notice of Intent to Levy,&they most likely have tracked down something&they can levy, like your wages.& He said you if&you then Rquest the Due Process Hearing&that will buy you even more time.& He said never tell them&why you want the hearing - just request it.& If, at the hearing, they rule against you, you then can petition tax court, delaying&collections even further.& He said this tactic can delay collecitons for up to a year or more.He&also&said&the tactic should be&used&only to buy yourself time--to&position yourself&to where they cannot levy you.& Otherwise, you are just putting off the inevitable.


Hope that helps.


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[Jerseee]

JamesDean,

That appears to be a good tactic but, I would respond. You can end up in dishonor if you do not respond.

[James]

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[suijuris]

JamesDean,

Good overview of IRS procedure. Maybe it would be helful of sand to state what he wishes to accomplish. Is there&unprotected personal poperty for the IRS to place a lien against?

Also, JamesDean also mentioned a levy of wages. What is needed from the IRS to accomplish this action? And does it also depend on the state - as I understand, some states do not allow wages to be garnished.

James,
Great cite -&I like how you go straight to the law. Keep that kind of stuff coming please!


Regards,
Sui Juris

& Hey thanks for the input guys.& I had an idea from one person about responding w/an acceptance for value.& I have no idea how this works and what the purpose would be.& Any input would be great.&


To get up to date, I just received IRS Notice CP 503 today with "IMPORTANT Immediate action required" heading.& They are wondering why they haven't heard from me about my unpaid account blaa blaa.& Mail $xxxxx to the US Treasury.& Is a negotiable instrument out of place?& If not, where can I study up on which would be the best to tame the beast?


Thanks.


Sand

I take a different approach. I respond, immediately, to EVERYTHING, signed, unsigned, computer genderated, witten on an Etch-a-Sketch. I don't care. And I KNOW from personal experience that their "liens" are bogus. (No judgment on file at court means NO judgment filed means NO lien.)


Now, the ONLY reason I do this is, in some, it's a "southern" thing. I'm in Virginia. It was simply beat into our heads that NOT answering someone is, well, just plain rude. And "we" (those dastardly anti-tax people) are the ones who scream about the IRS not answering our positions on tax law, and so forth.


Every response, though focused on that particular letter, always, always, always, contains demands for proof of debt, proof of authorit to collect the alleged debt, verification of alleged debt, and a "friendly reminder" that my response is now in their possession and as such, it is their responsibility to introduce it into court if THEY push it that far.


Never forget: The one who takes the matter to court has the burden of proof.


And yeah, I gotta learn all that other stuff, too.


Randy

<FONT size=3>Has anyone here ever received a "Request for Tax Return"&letter from IRS?& I've never gotten one of those letters.&They always jump straight to the NOD&and collection process. </FONT>


<FONT size=3>Why don't they ever ask for a tax return first?</FONT>


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Our "journey" did indeed start with the infamous cp-515 (both state and federal).& They request "information" and from there, of course, straight into the demands for return and payment.


So much for the "friendlier" IRS, right?


Randy


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