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[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

David Merrill wrote:
The 6331(a) missing clause argument is garbage because if you are arguing it, you are a federal employee/citizen of the United States. Just the same, at a glance it looks like it has merit:


If you're not supposed to argue about it then they should put the paragraph back in; otherwise the missing paragraph is fraud by ommission. It doesn't matter what the paragraph says. The fact that it's omitted is what's important.

Emphasis added.

Section 6331(a) provides information on who the section applies to. However, when section 6331(a) is removed, there is no replacement section to inform the reader who it clearly must apply to. This, then, forces the reader to imagine who it might apply to, which could be anyone, or no one. Thus, it is void for vagueness! This sums up the way that the IRS perpetuates BS and calls it "the LAW".

[squirrel]

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[David Merrill]

Having a Taxpayer ID # and utilizing it on past Income Tax Returns collaborated by the ongoing endorsement of Federal Reserve Notes is the process that one should be concerned about. After all that it is difficult to say that you are anything other than a federal employee. You probably even have a government issued ID card in your wallet for crying out loud!

But I really do hear where you are coming from. I just believe it is incorrect to call it fraud when it is all just a projection of your own forfeited sovereignty. For instance the IMFIRS has no obligation to include any of the IRC on the back of the Notice at all. So they will of course just put the parts that will convince you to pay up. That is their mission.

The rub is that if you are recipient of a Notice at all, then you are a federal employee! All citizens of the United States are federal employees. The state Citizens of Article IV of the Constitution would give up that privileged character for the status of being a public servant - citizen of the United States when elected or appointed to the federal government employment. That is who "any person subject" is. That is the only way to make sense of the de jure Thirteenth Amendment about Titles of Nobility. Any state Citizen can accept gifts and titles from foreign powers, it becomes a conflict of interest for federal employees (citizens of the United States) to accept such presents and titles. Article I, Section 10 makes it improper for State employees to accept foreign titles and emoluments too but the Framers saw the need around the Crown's persistance to install central banking in America quite necessary to declare the same for federal employees.

So simply calling it fraud is incorrect in my opinion but more importantly, it is ineffectual because nobody who looks at the history of banking and money will see it that way. There is nothing deceitful about leaving paragraph (a) off the IRC quoted on the backside of the Notice of Levy or Lien. You already identified yourself to be a federal employee from the get-go. [Do you have a SSN? You have to be a federal employee/citizen of the United States to have a SSN.]



Regards,

David Merrill.

[AndyK]

Originally Posted by mrg

It is not "law" at all.

It is BS.

You apparently have no idea what "law" is.

Here is a picture of your "law."



FDR (and Churchill) was singing his praises and busily adopting his political and economic solutions to the world wide depression (Germany was first to recover from the "bankster's holidays) until the maritime commerce started to be hampered.

Thank you sir, I will have no more.

You are really good at posting bull sh*t responses.

To date, you have not had a single post which added to any thread.

"It is not law at all"

You are either a liar, a fool or both.

Why don't you post something other than Nazi references (although that would contradict your core beliefs)?

If you have a single fact, post it.

Otherwise, shut the hell up.

[PANICPASS]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

The rub is that if you are recipient of a Notice at all, then you are a federal employee! All citizens of the United States are federal employees.

If all citizens of the United States are federal employees then everyone with an SSN is a federal employee. You, me, and the guy next door knows that that is not true.
Where do get that idea, David?

[Do you have a SSN? You have to be a federal employee/citizen of the United States to have a SSN.]


You become a U.S. citizen when you apply for the SSN. I don't see where the "federal employee" label comes into the picture.

[AndyK]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

If all citizens of the United States are federal employees then everyone with an SSN is a federal employee. You, me, and the guy next door knows that that is not true.
Where do get that idea, David?

[Do you have a SSN? You have to be a federal employee/citizen of the United States to have a SSN.]


You become a U.S. citizen when you apply for the SSN. I don't see where the "federal employee" label comes into the picture.

Although he'll deny it, David Merrill DOES have a SSN and a Federal tax lien attached to it.

The only reason there's been no collection activity against him is that he has no income (other than the allowance from his Mother) and no assets other than his electric bicycle and his "lab" equipment that he used to come up with a cure for SARS and avian flu.

But, don't take my word, ask him and see if you get a straight answer or just an unintelligible obfuscation.

[PANICPASS]

AndyK,

I don't care about all that "stuff" you said about David. That stuff might be important to me if I was personally interested in him. Right now I'm not personally interested in him, but I might be later. Are you personally interested in David, Andy?


Now, back to the topic...

Here is an SSN application. http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5_rev.pdf It asks what kind of citizen you are!! How in the heck am I supposed to know what kind of citizen I am?

[Shoonra]

I don't see how this is a problem for you. The question provides a choice of answers: Are you a US citizen? a non-citizen with a work permit? a non-citizen without a work permit? or something explained on page 2.

[PANICPASS]

You don't see the problem? Only U.S. citizens are required to fill out government forms. How do you know if you are a U.S. citizen if U.S. citizen is not defined on the form?

[AndyK]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

AndyK,

I don't care about all that "stuff" you said about David. That stuff might be important to me if I was personally interested in him. Right now I'm not personally interested in him, but I might be later. Are you personally interested in David, Andy?


Now, back to the topic...

Here is an SSN application. http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5_rev.pdf It asks what kind of citizen you are!! How in the heck am I supposed to know what kind of citizen I am?

Gee, perhaps you could try reading the instructions, or is that too obvious?

3. If you check "Legal Alien Not Allowed to Work," you must provide a document from the U.S. Federal, State, or local government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for the U.S. government benefit. NOTE: Not all U.S. State or local benefits are acceptable for non-work SSN purposes. Contact SSA to see if your reason qualifies.
If you check "Other," you must provide a document from the U.S. government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for a Federal benefit except for the number.

And how did we get HERE from discussing tax law? I started answering BOBT12's question, go interrupted by the babbling brook from Colorado and the Nazi, and we end up here.

Can we stick to one topic per thread?