Cracking The Code is Successful!

[KaosTheory]

Try this link for the .htm:

http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/PressRelease4-17-06.htm

I'm having probs with the .pdf link too. I'll post an updated link asap.

KT

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by KaosTheory

Try this link for the .htm:

http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/PressRelease4-17-06.htm

I'm having probs with the .pdf link too. I'll post an updated link asap.

KT

Thanks, my friend.

[KaosTheory]

http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/PressRelease4-17-06.pdf

Apparently, Pete's message has java script inbedded in the link for some reason. All you have to do is highlight, copy and paste the link in the address box of your browser.

The above link is already cut and pasted and should be ready to go by clicking on it.

[BOBT12]

Thanks for the updates KT.

[David Merrill]

Sorry to butt in without reading up on the thread. Just right on the topic by title however, I'd like to ask a question - Has anyone who has received a full refund from the IRS said anything here? It seems that in five pages under such a title that somebody would register and say their snippet for such a great cause?

The reason I am not bothering to read for myself is not laziness so much as that Internet Yarn can be a waste of time. That is when I have first hand testimony from people who are subscribing to CtC doctrine.

And from that testimony I believe the best explanation is in a dihybrid cross. Remember those from highschool genetics? There are two catagories in columns and likewise two rows.

At the top of the columns we have complicated and fresh. On the left side we have IRS agent and IRS attorney.

Let's pretend our taxpayer has been accurately reporting tax liabilities (according to the tax attorney interpretation of the IRC) and getting the refunds, maybe one or two audits etc. Never contesting or protesting anything - this is the "fresh" taxpayer verses the "complicated" taxpayer who fudges, gets fined, has late filing charges etc... The rows are for how the Return is handled in the IRS - solely by and "agent" or if it is passed from the "agent" to an "attorney".

Presuming there are a lot of Refunds on these CtC returns (like tallied on Peter's website) my understanding from people is that the "fresh" and "IRS attorney" box taxpayers are the most likely successes.

For example one suitor got the full Returns on a few years but is catagorized self-employed. The years that he "complicated" by using various protests or whatever are in limbo. He checked and finally the IRS informed him he owed nothing and he is not listed in the Seven Civil Suits on the other thread. However his wife is having a much more difficult time and especially with the State. It would seem that though the States determine liability directly from the Federal determinations, even when the Federal determines no tax liability, the State can become reluctant to comply.

So the fellow is proceeding with standard civil actions for the sake of getting discovery to the State. Upon which the State should Return all the overpaid taxes too.

I have read parts of Peter Eric's latest newsletter and agree that the arguments and foundation on the Seven Suits are pretty silly. However he is in grave danger if he expects to win in US court. The actor in the black robe will be in complete control of the jury and what may be presented. Also, by presentiing seven suits, mostly of which are likely couples, the DOJ coerces the husband to plead guilty in exchange for dropping charges against the wife. No doubt each defendant is watching for the others to cave and when that starts happening, people get scared and accept what they can get.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[KaosTheory]

Dave,

If you re-read the newsletter, you'll find that no one except Pete and his wife have really been served.

Other than that, I don't really understand what you are trying to say.

I have taken it upon myself to post this information here. I have no idea if others from the CTC site know this post exists.

[David Merrill]

Peter Eric encourages subscribers to CtC to broadcast and publish success stories wherever they can. The latest newsletter is even encouraging a contest. I find it a little curious that in a forum like suijuris we do not have Peter himself and numerous subscribers openly documenting successes. That is what that comment was about.

Otherwise, the DOJ may move the process through State grand jury indictment and the "defendants" will be served by the US Marshal Service picking them up at work in a SWAT-style proceeding just before Christmas. It is seldom less than the maximum shock and awe.

I know a fellow at Club-Fed and Mary J. Mullarkey - Chief Justice corporate Supreme Court/State Bar #5430 even chastised DOJ for using (abusing) the grand jury process as a rubber stamping process by not even presenting evidence, much less the defendant notice and a chance to defend. But still, with them taking care of the wife's parents in the mountains, he plead so that she could remain free.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[AndyK]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Peter Eric encourages subscribers to CtC to broadcast and publish success stories wherever they can. The latest newsletter is even encouraging a contest. I find it a little curious that in a forum like suijuris we do not have Peter himself and numerous subscribers openly documenting successes. That is what that comment was about.

Otherwise, the DOJ may move the process through State grand jury indictment and the "defendants" will be served by the US Marshal Service picking them up at work in a SWAT-style proceeding just before Christmas. It is seldom less than the maximum shock and awe.

I know a fellow at Club-Fed and Mary J. Mullarkey - Chief Justice corporate Supreme Court/State Bar #5430 even chastised DOJ for using (abusing) the grand jury process as a rubber stamping process by not even presenting evidence, much less the defendant notice and a chance to defend. But still, with them taking care of the wife's parents in the mountains, he plead so that she could remain free.


Regards,

David Merrill.

These are CIVIL (not criminal) cases in FEDERAL (not State) courts. No one will be arrested. No grand juries are involved. No federal marshals will pick anyone up.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by AndyK

These are CIVIL (not criminal) cases in FEDERAL (not State) courts. No one will be arrested. No grand juries are involved. No federal marshals will pick anyone up.

It may be CIVIL in the beginning, however:

People who engage in tax fraud schemes can expect to pay back taxes, plus interest and penalties, and may face criminal prosecution for evading taxes.

-Eileen J. O'Connor, Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's Tax Division.

Of course, Peter Hendrickson provides tons of proof, on his website and CtC book, as to why he, and his wife, don't owe the taxes the DOJ/IRS claim. There's no tax evading if you don't owe.

[David Merrill]

Good point Bob. AndyK is always saying stuff like that. The DOJ will begin criminal proceedings and rubber stamp it with a grand jury indictment before the "defendants" even know they have been summoned.