IRS forcing W-4 exemption status "HELP!"

[Fed-Up]

thanks for the heads up...didn't notice the date...

Happy Labor day

mike

[rushpat]

How did this ever turn out?

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[chuckhs12]

The company I work for is ignoring my W-4 form and the "Certificate of Exemption From Withholding in Lieu of W-4". I have had nothing but don't bother me. It is between you and the IRS. I even had a meeting with the HR person stating "The Company will not address the issue! Take it up with the IRS!" That came from thier top HR person.

I have sent in a set of documents to the Company telling them to stop withholding and rescinding my signature on W-4, 1040's, and State income tax forms. I am now looking at filing a lawsuit against my employer for violating the W-4 contract without my authorization and dishonoring the contracts.

I found some good sources of info on the famgaurdian.org website. If anyone has some sources of good info to present my case with case sites or threads with similar info, is greatly appreciated.

Will keep this thread updated as best I can.

Thanks,
Chuck.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by chuckhs12

The company I work for is ignoring my W-4 form and the "Certificate of Exemption From Withholding in Lieu of W-4". I have had nothing but don't bother me. It is between you and the IRS. I even had a meeting with the HR person stating "The Company will not address the issue! Take it up with the IRS!" That came from thier top HR person.

I have sent in a set of documents to the Company telling them to stop withholding and rescinding my signature on W-4, 1040's, and State income tax forms. I am now looking at filing a lawsuit against my employer for violating the W-4 contract without my authorization and dishonoring the contracts.

I found some good sources of info on the famgaurdian.org website. If anyone has some sources of good info to present my case with case sites or threads with similar info, is greatly appreciated.

Will keep this thread updated as best I can.

Thanks,
Chuck.

Hello, chuckhs12:

I think that you should consider suing the corporation and the individual that is responsible for signing over your earnings to the IRS. It usually only cost a few extra dollars to add an additional name to your suit. I feel that part of the reason to sue, regardless of the outcome, is to wake up those who are blindly following perceived rules, which in the case of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS (Snakes)) are wrong.

I think that you should start your suit in the state that the injury occured in, in this case Missouri. I would start out the suit by stating a claim based on the state constitution, I put in a link for this below.

Example:

Due process of law.

That no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law.

emphasis added.

You will need to look for the Rules of Civil Procedure the court district that you are filing in. The resourses below may help. Otherwise, you may ask for this information at the court house that you file in. Just be aware that they may make an issue about giving any legal advice/information.

It would be nice to file for a jury trial, however, this often has a high filing fee (non-refundable?), and the court may require a high dollar amount ($50,000 or more) be at issue.

Along with your petition/plea to the court, you will need to file some sort of verification to support the petition. You may need to find the rule/code number and list it in your verification.

Of course, any documents that you want to include with your petition, should be included as an exhibit, i.e. Exhibit A, B, C, etc. This would include all useful correspondence between you, the company, and the IRS. This is to show that you have attempted to resolve this matter administratively, without success.

If you get the clerk of court to accept your petition, then you can wait for the company attorney(s) to file preliminary objections, usually failure to state a claim. If you have stated a claim based on the constitution you should be on firm ground, however, this is where the court will often dismiss the the case. If you want to pursue the matter you will need to act quickly.

The court should tell you how to cure your petition. Check the rules for time limits, usually you will have 10 to 20 days to respond.

Note that attorneys are not fact witnesses, while they may put in a apperance for their clients (the company) to avoid default, they cannot put in any evidence/exhibits that are not supported by a verification of the client. In most cases the attorneys will not do this, thus, they have no facts on record. Since there are no facts against your verified petition, it should go to trial. However, you must raise this issue if the court attempts to dismiss your case based only on the attorneys statment. The same is true if the attorneys do not bring fact witnesses to trial, which they sometimes will do.

Here are a few things for you to look at regarding your suit.

Family Guardian, UNITED STATES v. O'DELL:

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Au...ellNo10188.htm

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/CitesByTopic/levy.htm


http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread...6&page=2&pp=10



Legal Resources:

http://www.findlaw.com/?DCMP=KWC-GOOGFINDLAW0804

http://www.versuslaw.com/

I hope that this aids you in your suit.

[iscovedel]

Just a suggestion...I'mnew to the game here but, that aside, I think it would be of benefit to read George Merciers "Invisible Contracts" before going to far with suits and the like...I have yet to read the entire text (it's roughly a whopping 800 pages) but waht I have read is very enlightening (minus the unneeded, sporadic insertions of Mormon doctrine) he has a lot to say to about equity relationships and why, unless you have exited out of these enriching (often invisible) contracts you will be wasting your time...

just a thought...

[Hugh]

Chuckhs12,

Could you possibly provide some detail on how you prepared the Form W4 for submission to your employer?

Is it possible that errors were made which enabled IRS to issue the rejection?

Could you demonstrate, in general terms, how you provided your name on the form and your location and whether you inadvertently intruded into areas of the form not appropriate for a claim of "Exempt?"

I ask because early on I made errors, (looking back "stupid" errors), which are difficult although not impossible to recover from. A properly submitted Form W4 has a much better chance of acceptance.

As others have pointed out, employers are very much afraid.

[Fed-Up]

we are forced to USE FRNs under duress, our lawful money is "coinage'; in Gold orSilver.
Got it?Because our Gold and silver has been removed from our economy,"colorable" money.....is what we have been forced to use.Cute,huh?

Originally Posted by Skeptic

The book is only 20 FRNS

I thought FRNs were worthless because they're not real money?

So why is he asking for FRNs instead of just giving the book away for free?

[Fed-Up]

What makes you think that some Citizens are not?

Originally Posted by Tommygun

What led you to believe you were exempt from the get-go?