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[PANICPASS]

The Australia Constitution totally sucks. The people of Australia are still under the Crown. According to Wikipedia Australia is an independent country, but how can it be an independent country when it is united in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the UK of Great Britain?

Australia's Preamble:

Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:


From Wikipedia:

The Constitution of Australia is the law under which the Australian Commonwealth government operates. It consists of several documents. The most important is the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia. The Constitution was approved in referendums held over 1898 - 1900 by the people of the Australian colonies, and the approved draft was enacted as a section of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 (Imp), an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. The Constitution came into force on 1 January 1901. Even though the Constitution was originally given legal force by an Act of the United Kingdom parliament, as Australia is now an independent country, the United Kingdom parliament has no power to change the Constitution, and only the Australian people can amend it (by referendum). Letters patent issued by the Crown, on the advice of Australian ministers, are also part of the Constitution of Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum

The referendum or plebiscite is a form of direct democracy.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by coderipley

I don't mean to derail the thread, and I'm sure we're both coming at it from different angles, but 1919 Treaty of Versailles is still very important in my opinion.

Australia became independant from the English Monarchy and current political structures became no longer applicable.

But again, just my opinion. It's because of that event that I don't take the Constitition Act too seriously and consider 99% of everything else in the law and political components of Australia a fraud.

Aus and all the other European nations are bankrupt and have been since the 30's. THAT is more important. The Versailles deal is a bum steer, put out by a group that is VERY interesting in regards to their goals.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

The Australia Constitution totally sucks. The people of Australia are still under the Crown. According to Wikipedia Australia is an independent country, but how can it be an independent country when it is united in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the UK of Great Britain?

Australia's Preamble:

Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:


From Wikipedia:

The Constitution of Australia is the law under which the Australian Commonwealth government operates. It consists of several documents. The most important is the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia. The Constitution was approved in referendums held over 1898 - 1900 by the people of the Australian colonies, and the approved draft was enacted as a section of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 (Imp), an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. The Constitution came into force on 1 January 1901. Even though the Constitution was originally given legal force by an Act of the United Kingdom parliament, as Australia is now an independent country, the United Kingdom parliament has no power to change the Constitution, and only the Australian people can amend it (by referendum). Letters patent issued by the Crown, on the advice of Australian ministers, are also part of the Constitution of Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum

The referendum or plebiscite is a form of direct democracy.

The Aus constitution does suck. It is more for the gov than the people.

[coderipley]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

Aus and all the other European nations are bankrupt and have been since the 30's. THAT is more important. The Versailles deal is a bum steer, put out by a group that is VERY interesting in regards to their goals.

I agree. I didn't say the Versailles deal was the most important, it was just very important, because Australia become free.

Seeing that Australia became bankrupt later and went into receivership (I hope I used the right word) with the international bankers is also, obviously, highly, highly important.

I'm not sure about any groups that are pushing one thing or another, just writing what I'm aware of.

[coderipley]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

The Aus constitution does suck. It is more for the gov than the people.

Of course. I completely agree.

I never put my signature to it, so I never formally accepted it. And the Referendum to implement the preamble fell to pieces so badly it must have been embarassing for the P.T.B that were at least trying to put on a show that there was still valid government in Australia.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by coderipley

I agree. I didn't say the Versailles deal was the most important, it was just very important, because Australia become free.

Seeing that Australia became bankrupt later and went into receivership (I hope I used the right word) with the international bankers is also, obviously, highly, highly important.

I'm not sure about any groups that are pushing one thing or another, just writing what I'm aware of.

Let me spell this out. Hopefully, without you getting your nose out of joint as I am not criticising you.
The Versailles stuff is crap. It is pushed by a group in Victoria that is illuminist in origin and want the UN to take Australia over until we can vote our own system into place. Now, I don't know if you are aware of the UN deal, but most times they enter a nation, when they leave, they leave a marxist government behind.
I know this group, I have spoken to some of their oldest members and their researchers and the lawyer that gives them advice.

[PANICPASS]

Australia Constitution:

115. A State shall not coin money, nor make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in payment of debts

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

Australia Constitution:

115. A State shall not coin money, nor make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in payment of debts

Yeah, but so what? That is about the states, not the commonwealth. Don't get the different jurisdictions confused.

[coderipley]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

The Versailles stuff is crap. It is pushed by a group in Victoria that is illuminist in origin and want the UN to take Australia over

No problem. I wasn't emotionally attached to any paricular agenda. To think that it is illuminist in origin is a little surprising, but nothing much shocks me anymore.

Now, I don't know if you are aware of the UN deal, but most times they enter a nation, when they leave, they leave a marxist government behind.

Well, I was aware of rumours that most of what the U.N. purports to be and do is just a cover to make them look big, but most is just fraud and puppeteering.

I know this group, I have spoken to some of their oldest members and their researchers and the lawyer that gives them advice.

If this is true, this is also very interesting and intriguing.

[PANICPASS]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

Yeah, but so what? That is about the states, not the commonwealth. Don't get the different jurisdictions confused.

I haven't gotten the two jurisdictions confused. If the states and territories of Australia make up the Commonwealth of Australia under a federal system of government, then what is the point in the provision that says the States can only accept only gold or silver coin as tender of payment of debt?