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Old 09-26-2008, 01:44 PM
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Tax defiers

Looks to me that their little scheme is coming to an end and they are afraid that to many of the minions/sheople/citizens/slaves are waking up.

http://www.usdoj.gov/tax/txdv08275.htm


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Old 09-26-2008, 02:13 PM
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I liked this part.

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130 million Americans voluntarily engage in this ritual [filing tax return] every year.
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Old 09-26-2008, 04:27 PM
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It is noted, in the report:
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the tax defier is someone who rejects the legal foundation of the tax system
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Well, then, that would be the TAX OPPRESSORS, for nowhere to be found in the Constitution of the United States is the power granted to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States.
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:10 PM
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the tax defier is someone who rejects the legal foundation of the tax system
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Well, then, that would be the TAX OPPRESSORS, for nowhere to be found in the Constitution of the United States is the power granted to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States.

Which Constitution ?

If it's the defacto one, Sec 1 & 4 of the 14th Amendment allows it
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:33 PM
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Well, then, that would be the TAX OPPRESSORS, for nowhere to be found in the Constitution of the United States is the power granted to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 does. So does the 16th Amendment (assuming you think the income tax is a direct tax, which it isn't).
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:43 PM
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You sign up for taxes with the Social Security Number too.

As George Gordon says, "You have to work to become a serf by signing up....."
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:52 PM
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Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 does. So does the 16th Amendment (assuming you think the income tax is a direct tax, which it isn't).

Please show me anywhere in the "law" that Congress has authority to print money out of thin air to the tune of $700 billion and tax the American people for it. This is plain outright fraud. All those involved in it should go to prison and the keys thrown away.

I am tired of listening to your crap and all the other trolls on this site. You are worthless pond scum in my opinion. You would sell your mother down the river for this fraud. You are not worth the spit to blow you to hell. And if Weis or any other mod wants to ban me for this so be it. I am sickened by your worthless diatribe. Why don't you and all the other frauds go crawl in a hole and rot.
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:56 PM
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Tell us how you really feel, dorkenbutt..... ROFL =D.

I'd be interested on the written opinions of the Supreme Court on this matter.

Didn't the Supreme Court say that the 16th Amendment extends no new powers of taxation to the federal government ?

Also, what were the "Founding Fathers" opinions on Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Constitution.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:57 PM
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From the report:
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Former Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes' saying states it best: "Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society."
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Journalist John Eligon wrote for the New York Times 6 June 2008:
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The time crept by so slowly and painfully that the 23-year-old Columbia University journalism student had decided it was time to end her life.

Over many torturous hours, she had been repeatedly raped, sodomized and forced to perform oral sex, a prosecutor told a jury on Thursday. The accused, Robert A. Williams, 31, had doused the woman’s face and body with boiling water and bleach, forced her to swallow handfuls of pills and to chase them with beer, sealed her mouth with glue, and bound her wrists and legs with shoelaces, cords and duct tape, said the prosecutor, Ann P. Prunty. And now, Ms. Prunty said, he was asking the woman to gouge out her own eyes with a pair of scissors.

And so the woman, sitting on the floor of her studio apartment in Hamilton Heights and holding a pair of scissors between her knees — the blade pointing toward her face — tried to stop the suffering. She lowered her face to the blade, but turned her head at the last moment, trying to stab herself in the neck instead of her eyes.

The scissors slipped from her grasp, the suicide attempt failed, and the woman suffered several more hours of torture, Ms. Prunty said.
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Journalists Alan Feuer and Thomas J. Lueck wrote for the New York Times 13 January 2006:
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A day after the bruised body of a 7-year-old girl was discovered in a blood-stained Brooklyn apartment, city officials revealed new and harrowing details of her short life yesterday, as well as repeated missed opportunities to save it. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg declared, "We, as a city, have failed this child."

The body of the girl, Nixzmary Brown, was found Wednesday at her mother's home in Bedford-Stuyvesant. Investigators said that the girl's stepfather, Cesar Rodriguez, had banged her head against a faucet in the bathtub and that they were trying to determine whether that was what killed her.

...Education and teachers' union officials said that school staff members had noticed that the girl was missing classes, appeared malnourished and suffered an eye injury, and that the staff members had notified state and city child welfare officials repeatedly.

...In the hearing, a prosecutor described a frightful sequence of abuse, saying that the girl had been "systematically tortured" for several weeks.

The girl was not quite four feet tall and weighed 36 pounds when she died, the officials said.

The girl had been tied up by her stepfather, she was denied food and her head was submerged under water, the prosecutor said. The final, fatal beating apparently came after she took yogurt from the refrigerator, the prosecutor said.

"There was barely a spot on this child that was not marked by her parents," said the prosecutor, Cathy Dagonese, of the Brooklyn district attorney's office. Describing the moments before Nixzmary died, Ms. Dagonese said Nixzmary had been lying on the floor, naked and unconscious, as Ms. Santiago stood by.
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Journalist Anemona Hartocollis wrote for the New York Times 24 February 2007:
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Clarence Norman Jr., the deposed Democratic assemblyman and party leader from Brooklyn, was convicted yesterday of extortion in what prosecutors said was a scheme to shake down judicial candidates in exchange for party support. It was his third conviction on corruption charges in 17 months.
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Our "civilized society"...
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:03 PM
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mertensv16 wrote:
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Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 does. So does the 16th Amendment (assuming you think the income tax is a direct tax, which it isn't).
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So, show all of us here just where in "Article I, Section 8, Clause 1", and "the 16th Amendment" the government was granted the power to lay a direct tax upon the inhabitants of the States.
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