Mail Fraud?

[nralien]

I recieved another correspondence from the Franchise Theft Board.

The mailing address reads:
MR. NON R. ALIEN

And then goes on to read: Mr. N. Alien,

The FTB already has my UCC filings which clearly state completely different addresses.

Is that mail fraud?

The letter is about requirements to file a return.

nralien

[Jerseee]

What is fraudulent about mailing something that you received? Other than the alleged debt (which has to be verified).

Originally Posted by nralien

I recieved another correspondence from the Franchise Theft Board.

The mailing address reads:
MR. NON R. ALIEN

And then goes on to read: Mr. N. Alien,

The FTB already has my UCC filings which clearly state completely different addresses.

Is that mail fraud?

The letter is about requirements to file a return.

nralien

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No, it's not mail fraud.& The UCC-1 is not one of the FTB's forms, so they are not likely to look at it&for a change of address.& If you want them to change your address you will have to use one of their forms.& I don't know if they have a form for&change of address.& Maybe if you just write them a letter, give them your new address.&


If the new address is without a zip code, I would send it certified mail because they might not acknowledge a change of address that has no&zip - you need to make sure they got it, so they use it.


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[nralien]

Thanks Jerseee and Tora

Based on your response you have no issues with the FTB addressing the envelope to the STRAWMAN and his location [address] and then the request/demand inside starts off with the flesh-and-blood?

nralien

Based on your response you have no issues with the FTB addressing the envelope to the STRAWMAN and his location [address] and then the request/demand inside starts off with the flesh-and-blood?




Actually, the request/demand inside&did not start off with the flesh-and-blood.& "Mr. N. Alien", is not the flesh-and-blood.& The use of& 'Initials' in the name is&a derivative of the ALL CAPITAL NAME.& Any time there is derivative spellings of your name, it is the strawman they are addressing.


FTB is not likely to acknowledge your change of address, let alone your flesh-and-blood name.& I don't know what the post office will do&when you give them your Notice of Lawful Location, although&once it is&filed&with the county recorder, and the postmaster has been duly notified, you have every right to send the mail back to the sender.&


FTB&will ignore it, so if you work for an employer you may want to give them a copy of your Notice of Lawful location and name. You&will likely have to stand up for yourself and DEMAND that others acknowledge your lawful location.& I doubt it will happen automatically just because of the filing with the recorder. &


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[nralien]

Tora

Thanks for explaining it.& I have another question in re to the Franchise Theft Board thread.

I was wondering how an agency having jurisdiction over you allows them to send you fraudulant billing and it not be mail fraud?

Jerseee could you add what you know about mail fraud?

nralien

How are you going to prove that what they are doing is mail fraud?& If you receive a piece of mail that is not address to you, you should send it back. By your acceptance and responding to it,&you are acknowledging that it is yours.&When you respond,&how could that be mail fraud?& Just send the thing back.


Neutral response:

<FONT face="Times Roman" color=#000000>Print &amp; Cut along dotted line
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These enclosed documents were inadvertently received, and opened by mistake. These enclosed document(s), which appear to be________________________________________________ ____, are not understandable or recognizable under the penalty of False Personation must be returned.


The enclosure herein contains the aforementioned and misdirected documents; as there is not enough knowledge or information disclosed to form a responsive answer, said documents are being returned forthwith.

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Singular response

</FONT><FONT face="Times Roman" color=#000000>print &amp; cut along dotted line</FONT>


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</FONT><FONT face="Times Roman" color=#000000 size=3><FONT size=2>I inadvertently received the enclosed document(s) which appear to be</FONT>



<FONT size=2>___________________________________________ _________
I do not know what this is all about. I do not understand or recognize these document(s).

I do not have enough knowledge or information to form a responsive answer.

So I am returning these document(s),
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</FONT><FONT size=2><U>Instructions

</U>Place documents to be returned in a new envelope. Address new envelope with document sender's address, also use this address as the return address. DO NOT use YOUR name or address on this envelope, Do not use any headings or signature on your response. The object is to return the presentment in the most neutral non committal manner possible. Do not rebut the issue or address anything in their documents. You simply return unwanted presentments. This is simply a misdirected posting being returned to the sender.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>The postal inspection&is not likely&to consider "state taxes",&mail fraud, under any circumstances.& </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/welcome.htm</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The U.S. Postal Inspection Service is the law enforcement branch of the U.S. Postal Service, empowered by federal laws and regulations to investigate and enforce over 200 federal statutes related to crimes against the U.S. Mail, the Postal Service and its employees. Postal Inspectors investigate any crime in which the U.S. Mail is used to further a scheme, whether it originated in the mail, by telephone or on the Internet. The use of the U.S. Mail is what makes it a mail fraud issue. </FONT></DIV>


If evidence of a postal-related violation exists, Postal Inspectors may seek prosecutive or administrative action against a violator; however, if money is lost to a fraudulent scheme conducted through the mail, Inspectors do not have the authority to ensure you are refunded your loss and cannot require that products, services or advertisements, on the Internet or elsewhere, be altered.


Postal Inspectors base their investigations of mail fraud on the number, pattern and substance of complaints received from the public. The Postal Inspection Service is interested in your concerns and will carefully review the information you provide.


If you feel you've been victimized in a mail fraud scheme that in any way involves the U.S. Mail, submit a Mail Fraud Complaint Form to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

[rushpat]

I'm not so sure it is a good idea to inform groups like the FTB and the IRS to know where you and your PROPERTY are located. Get my drift? Nobody likes to read stories of raids by the gov't sponsored thieves.

Attempts to collect on unsubstantiated claims could be considered mail fraud. You are probably right that they USPS would be resistant to do this to a tax collection group, but I wouldn't think it would be impossible. You might want to consult a paralegal.

I would say that if you can get some paperwork filed in both the country recorder's office, and also under the Misc section of Federal District courts, that your case could be stronger. I'm trying to find out from the lawwork group what steps can be taken to enforce an ex parte action to halt collection attempts when they default against you.

[nralien]

Tora

I believe I understand it now.& After filing your Notice of Lawful Location with the county recorder and mailing a certified copy to the postmaster you...

PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH MAIL YOU WISH TO RECIEVE.

You send back all mail matter that comes from taxing agencies and...

You keep court, dmv, employer and the like.

CORRECT?
nralien