If you MUST file a return....

[macerico]

Okay, keep it to the point.

I MUST file a return this year and maybe next year. I'm not ready to unplug in that capacity yet (but I'm working on it).

What DO you do?

What do you NOT do?

I want to do preserve my privacy, so I desire to not give where I live on any returns I must file. I believe you can list a P.O. Box on the return and not a street address.

Any other tips from those dealing with this issue?

I recall dealing with one of the guys on this forum once before htat had information relative to the alleged fact that the IRS are requirred to do the filing for you and that it must be signed by them under penalty of perjury. If I am not mistaken, it might have been Weish.. If I am mistaken, then I apologize to Weish.

Jerry.

[rentiap]

Jerrypitts;
Could this be what you are referring to?

In the IRC, there are provisions that authorize the Secretary of the Treasury to appoint someone within the IRS to fill out tax forms for you if you don't do it. If they do that though, then they have to swear under the penalties of perjury that the tax return they make for you is true, correct and complete. The only problem is, IRS agents cannot and will not sign your tax return under penalties of perjury. It was here where it dawned on Mr. McLeod that this is the key to all taxes, whether it be income taxes, property taxes or anything else. The government never swears to their assessments under penalties of perjury; we always do. He said if they don't swear to it, then they can't come into our venue from their corporate venue unless they can get us to agree to what they say we owe.

Found at this sight.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%2...iceMcLeod.html

Regards,
rentiap.

[macerico]

Interesting read.

I can't get out of filing because student loans use the income reported to calcuate payments. Gotta handle issue #1 before moving to issue #2.

I'm wondering whay I should list as "occupation" since it's required. I want to give them as little data as possible.

Although the software I'm running shows just over 2,000 FRNs back between state and federal theivery.

Originally Posted by rentiap

Jerrypitts;
Could this be what you are referring to?


Found at this sight.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%2...iceMcLeod.html

Regards,
rentiap.

You may well be correct in your assessment of the content of the conversation I had with the other member. However, as it was only a general discussion and well over a year ago, the details are foggy. Thanks for the input.

Jerry.

[Scott6454]

Originally Posted by rentiap

Jerrypitts;
Could this be what you are referring to?


Found at this sight.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%2...iceMcLeod.html

Regards,
rentiap.

I have read somewhere on the internet amongst all those websites including the irs ones that if you do not sign the return you will be fined a penalty or charged with some ridiculous act.

Of couse like rentiac said they won't sign so why should we. Is there any legal case or statute here at Sui Juris or else where that tells us of what will happen if we file but not sign the return?

Scott6454

Sorry Scott... tax laws are not my forte'... I was just recollecting a past conversation...

Jerry

[Scott6454]

Originally Posted by rentiap

Jerrypitts;
Could this be what you are referring to?


Found at this sight.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%2...iceMcLeod.html

Regards,
rentiap.

I just went to the sire rentiap quoted here and a quarter of the way down highlighted in yellow is the same information that a fellow Canadian has on his website about the 'strawman'. Read these two websites people. A lot of useful info here.

Even thou it is a Canadian website for us fellow Canadians the gentleman who put this up says and quotes a lot of US stuff backing himself up both for the US and Canada.

http://www.detaxcanada.org/

Scott6454

[macerico]

Well, I just filed this weekend.

I didn't see anything I should object to (e.g., claiming status as U.S. citizen, etc.). I'm using a c/o PO BOX address. I claimed something vague with contracting as my "occupation" (as if that's anyone's business).

The main reason I'm glad to get it done is that between business startup costs and other factors, I really hammered down my AGI (all totally legitimate deductions too...no book cooking needed), and if there is any blessing in being just a share above poverty most every year, it's the fact that since the IRS wants to make money if they go after people, they really don't care about people who seem to always be poor. I didn't go from 50,000 to under 10,000....I've never had an AGI above 15,000.

This might help me melt away into the background. I'm just one of the "huddled masses" (yearning to be free).

[idknow]

Originally Posted by macerico

Interesting read.

I can't get out of filing because student loans use the income reported to calcuate payments. Gotta handle issue #1 before moving to issue #2.

I'm wondering whay I should list as "occupation" since it's required. I want to give them as little data as possible.

Although the software I'm running shows just over 2,000 FRNs back between state and federal theivery.

Regarding what information to give for "occupation", if you are a disciple of Jesus, then say so.

Happy filing ;)