12-08-2004, 05:02 AM
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Revenue Canada
From the Horses mouth : " The Income Tax Act is a Directive"
This is the final response I, and Dalrex, got after grilling a Revenue scumbag agent. After boxing them into a corner, and demanding to know what the Income Tax Act is and the Final question "The Income Tax Act says the word 'TAX', so are Income Taxes a TAX!" .........long pause.....uncomfortable fidgiting "Well, ummmm, it's a directive".
We are right, we are all being robbed. The Income Tax Act is NOT a tax, it is not manditory, and it is NOT a law. It is a Government statute of "Color of Law" that applies to only legal fictions, otherwise known as Corporations.
Their attempt to talk around our questions and come up with answers that even made sense was pathetic. I was there on someone else's behalf, and loved every minute of it. I asked if the Income Tax Act was enforceable on a living man, to which I got "Well, on taxpayers yes."
Me - "No, I mean on living people like me and this living man here."
Him- "Well, are you citizens of Canada?"
Me - "What is a Citizen?"
Him- ......."Ummmmm......well a ....taxpayer".
They would NOT say that a living man/woman is named in the Income Tax. A Citizen and a Taxpayer are ALL legal fictions which is the ONLY thing named in the Income Tax Act. We asked to see the factual evidence that this guy right here (pointing at my buddy) owes you guys money, and 7 times we were told to refer to the Income Tax Act. Dalrex responded with "Does it say Mr. XXXXXXX owes the sum of $ XXXXX.XX" The scumbag (agent) replied with "Well of course it does not name him personally, if you read it blah blah blah." So I asked again "Does it even state that it applies to a living man?" only to get the same moronic response.
I also asked how we get a copy of the letters he sent to banks ordering them to freeze accounts, the ones he signed, and again there was that "Deer in the Headlights" look,
"Well, Ummmm, you can't. If you want that you have to blah, blah, blah blah,"
He rattled of a bunch of crap to try to make it sound really hard to get copies which ended with FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) which I was happy to tell him I know very well. I then asked why we must file a FOIA request to simply get copies of letters that were freely sent to the banks regarding personal information that he himself cannot get access to. Which got more blank looks from these dip****s.
They do NOT like questions, or people looking behind the curtain to where the great and powerfuol OZ is, as they will see a pathetic looking little rat behind the controls trying to fool you with a BIG show of power, of which they have NONE!
Moral of this story, do not bother to go down and discuss matters with the IRS or Revenue Canada as this is the mentallity you will be dealing with. Simply get a copy of your master file, look for names of living people harassing you, and sue them personally for what they have done. Use the commercial liens process, and get a Certificate of Dishonor for lot's of money (yes I know money does not exist, but FRN's come in handy for eating) for their violations of your rights. Do not waste your time, go straight for the kill shot. As I was there on someone else's behalf, I will use this experience to learn and simply go straight to creating a living hell for the guy handling my account, that is now 7 years is arrears, with NO warning shots fired. He has done nasty things to me in the past, I have no remorse.
Why would they not answer one little question?
"Is a living man/woman required to pay Income Taxes"
Or...
"Is the Income Tax Act a Tax?"
Both simple questions, neither will they answer.
It's called an elaborate SCAM!
P.S, we were moved to several different offices, and there were camera's EVERYWHERE, you want to bet I'm on a CSIS watch list today. "Oh ****, one of them woke up!"
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12-15-2004, 02:20 AM
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Awesome!
Good job, man. I may have to disagree with you that it's useless to conduct in-face meetings because of their stubborness. You go to these things KNOWING that it's going to happen. You bring in some witnesses, a notary, or a court reporter & make a record of it. Send in an affidavit with the transcript affirming that every word is true, correct, and complete. Include in your affidavit a denial of everything.
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12-15-2004, 04:08 AM
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The sad thing is, that agent probably realized how worthless his position is, yet just went right back to work, and put it all out of his mind.
Have you looked into this website for Canada Revenue? Some of it may be applicable in the US too:
http://www.detaxcanada.org/ |
12-16-2004, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rushpat
The sad thing is, that agent probably realized how worthless his position is, yet just went right back to work, and put it all out of his mind.
Have you looked into this website for Canada Revenue? Some of it may be applicable in the US too:
http://www.detaxcanada.org/ |
That was the very first site I ever ran across that woke me to what is happening. My never ending gratitude goes to Mr. Eldon Warman. Very nice guy, he always gets back to your Emails. There are amny other sites, and more that deal directly with rights. His site is a great place to read up on Common Law, as he has a huge repository on that.
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"You bring in some witnesses, a notary, or a court reporter & make a record of it."
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I took my dictaphone, and he would NOT talk with it on. We asked him to sign a document I printed up stating that he swears under penalty of perjury that the debt really exists, and he has seen factual proof of it, and that he attests to the debt being valid. He jumped back, literally, from it and stated "I'm not signing anything, why would I sign something you brought down?"
Meanwhile we are expected to sign every piece of used toilet paper they throw in front of us? What hypocritical nonsense is that?
I would love to persue matters against this guy personally on behalf of my friend, well see, since the guy was an annoyingly ignorant little cuss. I had the overwhelming urge to vomit everytime he opened his mouth and shot feces out at us.
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12-16-2004, 09:19 AM
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true, but if you have two other witnesses and/ or 1 notary or both, you can try it like this next time:
Have all of them with note pads and pens and announce that you are making a record this day of . . . at this time . . . at this location, with this agent . . the recorder is on the whole time. You make a transcription of it and make an affidavit in support. send it to them certified to compare the record. By their non-response, it stands as truth.
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12-16-2004, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776
true, but if you have two other witnesses and/ or 1 notary or both, you can try it like this next time:
Have all of them with note pads and pens and announce that you are making a record this day of . . . at this time . . . at this location, with this agent . . the recorder is on the whole time. You make a transcription of it and make an affidavit in support. send it to them certified to compare the record. By their non-response, it stands as truth.
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I could just send a Sworn Affidavit of the events and in their non-response it stands as truth as well.
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02-01-2006, 07:16 PM
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A lil Known Canadian Fact
In the early 90s I read in the papers about a person challenging the tax laws in Canada. Every time Revenue Canada took him to court he won... on the grounds that the tax was suppose to support the war time efforts of WW I & II. The last time Revenue Canada took him to court the Supreme Court Justice told Rev Cda that if they brought him to court again they would be charged & fined.
About two years after reading that article I heard a tidbit on the radio that Parliament passed a secret vote that no one could challenge the tax laws in Canada any more!
Talk about being shafted or what. As a Canadian myself I find this irreprehensible and wonder why more Canadians are not questioning our own govt in this area.
If anyone really sat down, did their research, we would all find that we do not owe taxes in any form. It amazed me how many people don't take the time to learn where money comes from - hint for those jerry springer people out there -> poof! But the England, the Federal Reserve , and then the United States started this and have screwed the civilians of this world for their own greed.
Here is a link to DOWNLOAD the MP3 file of John Perkins' "Confessions Of An Economic Hitman" as being interviewed in the news.
http://www.democracynow.org/article..../11/09/1526251
Well I personally look to the day when all this comes crumbling down and it will cause history always repeats itself. That and man will not put up with the corruption that we are enduring today in society.
Scott6454 
ps weis - I spent time at that deprogramming site you list in your quote - already knew most of the stuff but certainly there were a few things that were described in a more informative format
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02-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott6454
In the early 90s I read in the papers about a person challenging the tax laws in Canada. Every time Revenue Canada took him to court he won... on the grounds that the tax was suppose to support the war time efforts of WW I & II. The last time Revenue Canada took him to court the Supreme Court Justice told Rev Cda that if they brought him to court again they would be charged & fined.
About two years after reading that article I heard a tidbit on the radio that Parliament passed a secret vote that no one could challenge the tax laws in Canada any more!
Talk about being shafted or what. As a Canadian myself I find this irreprehensible and wonder why more Canadians are not questioning our own govt in this area.
If anyone really sat down, did their research, we would all find that we do not owe taxes in any form. It amazed me how many people don't take the time to learn where money comes from - hint for those jerry springer people out there -> poof! But the England, the Federal Reserve , and then the United States started this and have screwed the civilians of this world for their own greed.
Here is a link to DOWNLOAD the MP3 file of John Perkins' "Confessions Of An Economic Hitman" as being interviewed in the news.
http://www.democracynow.org/article..../11/09/1526251
Well I personally look to the day when all this comes crumbling down and it will cause history always repeats itself. That and man will not put up with the corruption that we are enduring today in society.
Scott6454
ps weis - I spent time at that deprogramming site you list in your quote - already knew most of the stuff but certainly there were a few things that were described in a more informative format |
The link is broken!
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02-01-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EnSabahNur
From the Horses mouth : " The Income Tax Act is a Directive"
Moral of this story, do not bother to go down and discuss matters with the IRS or Revenue Canada as this is the mentallity you will be dealing with. Simply get a copy of your master file, look for names of living people harassing you, and sue them personally for what they have done. Use the commercial liens process, and get a Certificate of Dishonor for lot's of money (yes I know money does not exist, but FRN's come in handy for eating) for their violations of your rights. Do not waste your time, go straight for the kill shot. As I was there on someone else's behalf, I will use this experience to learn and simply go straight to creating a living hell for the guy handling my account, that is now 7 years is arrears, with NO warning shots fired. He has done nasty things to me in the past, I have no remorse.
Why would they not answer one little question?
"Is a living man/woman required to pay Income Taxes"
Or...
"Is the Income Tax Act a Tax?"
Both simple questions, neither will they answer.
It's called an elaborate SCAM!
P.S, we were moved to several different offices, and there were camera's EVERYWHERE, you want to bet I'm on a CSIS watch list today. "Oh ****, one of them woke up!"
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I admire your courage Ensabanur lol really. Just sad that these morons do wreck other people's lives who are not willing to stand up for themselves and do some research like we do on this site.
Scott6454
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