Stop Federal Witholding

[idknow]

There is actually very little IMO on the teamLaw sites (I hit two of them)
regarding what he did, how and alittle bit about why in a short biography;

but other than that I got the impression that the site is mainly ``the glass
pane to a candy store'' -- no real substance publically; one has to pay a
significant sum of FRNs to join the club to get help, but the site is NOT about
howto become an Original Jurisdiction position of government, either of the states
nor in the district as an elected representative.

I did find a couple of tidbits, but really, those few things could be pur on one
page and that would be it.

overall, i was disappointed.

[mystic one]

just check the box that says exempt then they dont take any taxes out and back it up with an affadavit if they question you about it?

[planetmark]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

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This looks like a spoof to me (unfortunately). I searched the IRS site under publications and forms, and could find nothing regarding a "W-0." Anyone else able to find anything?

Suitor

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Maybe a trip to the counter will turn it up; probably not. Rather crafty to forge an IRS Form. I imagine having both the Treasury and a bunch of clients/employers out to hang you might get kinda rough.

I hung a decoy W-0 Form in the trees hoping to spot this foxy individual ...

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Regards,

David Merrill.

----- Original Message -----
From: Suitor 2
To: Suitors' email addresses sanitized
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: W-0


This appears to be the work of a smart individual, who made it look like an IRS form, but did not allege same.



When the “employer” signs it, it supposedly nullifies everything else. (Sorry, I haven’t had time to fully diagnose the paper, but I did observe that someone did what I said above.)

David,

I just looked at the link for this W0 form. It says all over the web site, and even on the form itself, that it is a PRIVATE form, "developed" for the specific need presented on the page. It has no OMB number. It is a form created by some private person for the purpose of providing a nice form to have filled out that neatly rebuts the IRS assumptions. It's like the forms on the NoSSN web site, just a nicely formatted assertion of some legal facts, and a way to get a signature to back it up and hold someone accountable. There is no assertions that this is a valid IRS form.

Given that understanding, it might clear up its intended usage. It may even be a very useful aproach? If one can get their employer's to go for it, and fill it out. I dunno. Just thought I'd clarify that since nobody else has commented on it.

[jackwilsonjr]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

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Where in the IRC are the definitions "Federally Privileged Employee" etc. My payroll person assures me there is no such classification. Can you guide me to this?

Tom

[fulltitle]

Without Prejudice.
Two words...

dubya.
eight.

Also 'residency' for 'tax purposes' can be different than 'residency' for 'other purposes'.

[rentiap]

jackwilsonjr;
Tell your payroll person to Look under Title26 Section 3401(c) Employee
For purposes of this chapter, the term “employee” includes an officer, employee, or elected official of the United States, a State, or any political subdivision thereof, or the District of Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of any one or more of the foregoing. The term “employee” also includes an officer of a corporation.

Also you may want that person to look up the term "Inclusio Unius est exclusio alterius". The inclusion of one is the exclusion of another.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by rentiap

jackwilsonjr;
Tell your payroll person to Look under Title26 Section 3401(c) Employee
For purposes of this chapter, the term “employee” includes an officer, employee, or elected official of the United States, a State, or any political subdivision thereof, or the District of Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of any one or more of the foregoing. The term “employee” also includes an officer of a corporation.

Also you may want that person to look up the term "Inclusio Unius est exclusio alterius". The inclusion of one is the exclusion of another.

Emphasis added.

Remember that the State that is being refered to is a federal State, such as the District of Columbia.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by jackwilsonjr

Where in the IRC are the definitions "Federally Privileged Employee" etc. My payroll person assures me there is no such classification. Can you guide me to this?

Tom

The government fools nonresident aliens (state nationals) into acting like resident aliens (federal citizens, DC, etc.).

I was in the middle of some kind of phony audit where they were wanting 15000 from me for 04 and 05. I filled out forms 1040x and 4852. No reply except for they sent me the same thirty day letter about three times. I finally sent them an affidavit of truth telling them I stood on my new forms and besides there were no omb numbers on the forms they sent me, requesting information and I was raising usc 44 sec 3512 as a bar. Today I found out they closed my audit and accepted my new returns. I dont see how that is ctc burning my butt. C.

[ezrhythm]

Regarding an employer who is asking for your TIN (SS#);

26 CFR 301.6109-1(c) provides:

If he does not know the taxpayer identifying number of
the other person, he shall request such number of
the other person. A request should state that the
identifying number is required to be furnished under
authority of law. When the person filing the return, statement, or other document does not know the number of the other person, and has complied with the request provision of this paragraph, he shall sign an affidavit on the transmittal document forwarding such return, statement, or other document to the IRS so stating. (Emphasis added)

I would tell my employer that the IRS doesn't consider me liable for withholding or an income tax and that I don't have a tax payer identification number and am not required to obtain one.