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Anti-Tax Law Evasion Schemes
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...106498,00.html
Folks, you best get rid of everything in your name and put it in trust. Umbrella your banking under a bookeeper's bank account, etc . . . Before you get into this, you MUST protect your assets first
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04-18-2006, 04:07 PM
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If the Tax is not voluntary, then why does title 27 cfr sec. 70.11 meaning of terms state: Enforced Collection. Collection of TAXES when a TAXPAYER neglects or refuses to pay VOLUNTARITY. Including such ADMINISTRATIVE measures as liens and levies.
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04-18-2006, 04:37 PM
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Paying taxes IS voluntary. Lawfully, the IRS cannot
compel anyone to pay, but they will do everything
they can to intimidate and coerce, with the DOJ
and the courts abetting almost every effort made by
them.
What one must keep in mind is, all the IRC,
administrative "remedies", etc, pertain ONLY to
taxpayers.
Nothing in the IRS' arsenal of codes applies to the
nontaxpayer. Nothing.
A nontaxpayer is one who asserts to the IRS, when
invited to pay taxes, that he/she is not a taxpayer
as defined by the IRS code.
Shift the burden of proof where it belongs.
Caveat: If you sign anything from the IRS, paperwork,
submit forms, etc. You have voluntarily become a
taxpayer. Make sure you pay your taxes. The IRS and
the courts can be very nasty to taxpayers who try to
beat the system.
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04-18-2006, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchicago
Paying taxes IS voluntary. Lawfully, the IRS cannot
compel anyone to pay, but they will do everything
they can to intimidate and coerce, with the DOJ
and the courts abetting almost every effort made by
them.
What one must keep in mind is, all the IRC,
administrative "remedies", etc, pertain ONLY to
taxpayers.
Nothing in the IRS' arsenal of codes applies to the
nontaxpayer. Nothing.
A nontaxpayer is one who asserts to the IRS, when
invited to pay taxes, that he/she is not a taxpayer
as defined by the IRS code.
Shift the burden of proof where it belongs.
Caveat: If you sign anything from the IRS, paperwork,
submit forms, etc. You have voluntarily become a
taxpayer. Make sure you pay your taxes. The IRS and
the courts can be very nasty to taxpayers who try to
beat the system.
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Yes, once you volunteer, you waive your rights. However, it is a fraud due to the IRS' misleading information.
By the way, I have never received an assesment of Subtitle A taxes in my life. I have never received any document from the IRS signed by anyone under penalty of perjury, has anyone?
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...106498,00.html
These are more documents which are misleading and unofficial . Why doesn't Mark Everson, IRS Commissioner; or the IRS's attorneys sign the documents under penalty of Perjury to make them official?
Quote:
United States Code
TITLE 26 - INTERNAL REVENUE CODE
SUBTITLE F - PROCEDURE AND ADMINISTRATION
CHAPTER 61 - INFORMATION AND RETURNS
SUBCHAPTER A - RETURNS AND RECORDS
PART IV - SIGNING AND VERIFYING OF RETURNS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS
U.S. Code as of: 01/22/02
Section 6065. Verification of returns
Except as otherwise provided by the Secretary, any return,
declaration, statement, or other document required to be made under
any provision of the internal revenue laws or regulations shall
contain or be verified by a written declaration that it is made
under the penalties of perjury.
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Emphasis added.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...le=26&sec=6065
Check here for more information:
Rebutted version of the IRS "The Truth About Frivolous Tax Arguments"
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showforum=19
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04-18-2006, 05:14 PM
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Thats like using my state id to show I was not driving in a traffic court case. See Judge it says right on the front in BIG RED LETTERS NON-DRIVER. See judge I didnt pay any tax so how in any logic could someone declare me a tax-payer.
Ha I love it. The answers are always so simple.
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04-18-2006, 06:06 PM
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A Little Simpler.
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Originally Posted by kmcarr
Thats like using my state id to show I was not driving in a traffic court case. See Judge it says right on the front in BIG RED LETTERS NON-DRIVER. See judge I didnt pay any tax so how in any logic could someone declare me a tax-payer.
Ha I love it. The answers are always so simple.
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It is a little simpler than that. It is like going to traffic court and refusing to sign a statment that says, "I am guilty as charged". Hence, don't sign the 1040 under penalty of perjury, establishing that you are a taxpayer, and self-assessing a tax upon your head, which you now owe.
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04-18-2006, 06:48 PM
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I wonder if anyone has ever used novation on a 1040 by striking out the under penalty of perjury part? What would be the IRS response? Theoreticaly, of course.
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04-18-2006, 06:53 PM
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The Form Will Be Returned.
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Originally Posted by kmcarr
I wonder if anyone has ever used novation on a 1040 by striking out the under penalty of perjury part? What would be the IRS response? Theoreticaly, of course.
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The IRS will often return the form, as unsigned. I believe that they will fine ($300-$500?) you for this, it has been some time since I have filed anything with them, maybe others can help with this. Of course, late penalties and interest will be applied to the amounts you claim to owe, after you correctly sign the form. Yes, the IRS is a nasty bunch of vipers.
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Last edited by BOBT12 : 04-18-2006 at 07:03 PM.
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04-18-2006, 06:59 PM
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kmcarr:
The answer is simple, the procedure not much more so,
but you do need to know what you are doing. It is a
mistake to use an analogy that does not pertain.
Faulty logic leads to faulty conclusions.
BOBT12:
"However, it is a fraud due to the IRS' misleading
information."
This is the kind of thinking the IRS and courts love to
hear and dismiss as frivilous, and it is.
Go back to square one. Assert that you are not a
"taxpayer" as defined by the IRC. Make them prove that you are. (Keep the burden on them)
Then volunteer(literally) to pay any taxes
that you lawfully owe.
Request (no need to challenge) that they, the IRS,
provide you with any law that makes you a taxpayer
as defined in their own code, AND to provide you with
a lawful assessment showing the amount you lawfully
owe, and then you will be happy to pay whatever
amount you lawfully owe.
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What this does is demonstrate that you are, in fact,
volunteering to pay that amount theysay
you lawfully owe.
You are not denying you owe anything, so you are
not creating a dispute.
Forget about quoting the USC, title this, section that.
They have no meaning, zero, no impact, none for you,
as a nontaxpayer, so why bother looking for ways to
dispute something that does not apply to you?
You are not accusing the IRS of fraud, (which shifts the
burden of proof on you...mistake). You are not
calling them nasty names. You are merely putting the
burden of proof where it belongs....on them. Let them
prove their own case. After all, you are not disputing them
over anything.
Make themprove you are a taxpayer as
defined by their own code. Make them
prove you lawfully owe taxes, taxes that you tell them
you are more than willing to pay....once they meet
their burden of proof.
It has been my experience that they cannot.
Edit: I am new here and not used to the mechanics of
proper posting, using bold type, etc.
Last edited by mnchicago : 04-18-2006 at 07:12 PM.
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04-18-2006, 07:18 PM
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Implications of Signing IRS Forms Under Penalty of Perjury.
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Originally Posted by mnchicago
kmcarr:
The answer is simple, the procedure not much more so,
but you do need to know what you are doing. It is a
mistake to use an analogy that does not pertain.
Faulty logic leads to faulty conclusions.
BOBT12:
"However, it is a fraud due to the IRS' misleading
information."
This is the kind of thinking the IRS and courts love to
hear and dismiss as frivilous, and it is.
Go back to square one. Assert that you are not a
"taxpayer" as defined by the IRC. Make them prove that you are. (Keep the burden on them)
Then volunteer(literally) to pay any taxes
that you lawfully owe.
Request (no need to challenge) that they, the IRS,
provide you with any law that makes you a taxpayer
as defined in their own code, AND to provide you with
a lawful assessment showing the amount you lawfully
owe, and then you will be happy to pay whatever
amount you lawfully owe.
---
What this does is demonstrate that you are, in fact,
volunteering to pay that amount theysay
you lawfully owe.
You are not denying you owe anything, so you are
not creating a dispute.
Forget about quoting the USC, title this, section that.
They have no meaning, zero, no impact, none for you,
as a nontaxpayer, so why bother looking for ways to
dispute something that does not apply to you?
You are not accusing the IRS of fraud, (which shifts the
burden of proof on you...mistake). You are not
calling them nasty names. You are merely putting the
burden of proof where it belongs....on them. Let them
prove their own case. After all, you are disputing them
over anything.
Make themprove you are a taxpayer as
defined by their own code. Make them
prove you lawfully owe taxes, taxes thaat you tell them
you are more than willing to pay....once they meet
their burden of proof.
It has been my experience that they cannot.
Edit: I am new here and not used to the mechanics of
proper posting, using bold type, etc.
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I generally agree with your statments. However, I was not suggesting that anyone call the IRS frauds in their documents, rather, I was addressing the implications of signing IRS forms under penalty of perjury.
And welcome to the forum.
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"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson
It is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong. -Voltaire
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