New Gen No SS#

[georgealexander]

....I am using this subject letter in the fly of my notebook

FM 27-10 and FM 41-10

which you may find GOOGLing...Those are Field Manuals, Department of Army.

FM 27-10 THE LAW OF LAND WARFARE



FM 41-10 CIVIL AFFAIRS OPERATIONS

Note Figure 10-5. Generic camp schematic on page 10-13

Note FEMA regional boundaries and field installations are Figure 10-11 on page 10-28

I curiously note beyond the borders of the continental uS, there are four FEMA regional boundaries and field installations in Canada.



George Alexander

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicia...&cid=N00002314

The above link will show, in spite of the information received by David Merrill, that Hefner WAS in fact a member of Congress. This is not to say that David was passing bad information, but rather that he was given bad information.

Jerry.

The phone number for Hefner has long been reissued. I failed to grasp the name given for the office when the helpful assistant answered. I did not say that the cover letter was bogus. So please don't spin it that way. I am saying it is probably too late to follow up on the 1997 cover letter for evidence.

Thank you George Alexander;

http://www.militarypubs.com/field%20manuals/FM27-10.htm
http://www.militarypubs.com/field_manuals.htm

Noted that "Civial Affairs Operations - FM 41-10" is no longer an active link at militarypubs.

http://www.armystudyguide.com/conten...rations-.shtml

No spin intended David, merely stipulating that you might have been given faulty information. Sorry that I might have given that representation.

BTW.. for those that are interested, I have a cd with all the military manuals on it... if you are interested, I will upload them.

Jerry.

Originally Posted by David Merrill

The phone number for Hefner has long been reissued. I failed to grasp the name given for the office when the helpful assistant answered. I did not say that the cover letter was bogus. So please don't spin it that way. I am saying it is probably too late to follow up on the 1997 cover letter for evidence.

Thank you George Alexander;

http://www.militarypubs.com/field%20manuals/FM27-10.htm
http://www.militarypubs.com/field_manuals.htm

Noted that "Civial Affairs Operations - FM 41-10" is no longer an active link at militarypubs.

http://www.armystudyguide.com/conten...rations-.shtml

[georgealexander]

https://134.11.61.26/CD7/Publication...2020000214.pdf

George Alexander

[David Merrill]

It is difficult to read that phone number on the .pdf image of the cover letter. Whoever answered looked on a list of both Houses and found no listing for Bill Hefner. This indicates that Bill is long gone from Congress since 1997.

If your research indicates where Bill Hefner, the signer of the cover letter is to be located, I will fax my request there like I intended earlier today. I want him to send the documentation "in print" (in 1997) or cite it so I can look in the Federal Repository for the same.

The Manuals are indicative as the cover letter but they still do not describe fully the capacity of these "internment camps", budgets in 1997 and since for example.



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S.

Originally Posted by George Alexander

Note Figure 10-5. Generic camp schematic on page 10-13

The link at militarypubs to this document is no longer valid and any other source may be tampered with. But if you would please include that link we can all get a look at the schematic George.

For instance the link provided is page-formatted chapter-page ("4-15" for example).

I will do more research on his current location David.. and will get back with you on it.

Jerry.

PS... this is where I found the copy that I originally received...
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Co...mps/index.html

[Demosthenes]

If you want to know what civilian labor programs are, why don't you just look it up under the current laws and regs? (Army Regulation 210-35, 10 USC Section 2667, Public Law 103-337).

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

2–1. Policy statement
a. With a few exceptions, the Army’s Civilian Inmate Labor Program is currently limited to using inmates from
facilities under the control of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (FBOP). Section 4125(a), Title 18, United States Code allows the Attorney General to make available to other Federal agencies the services of Federal inmates and defines the types of services inmates can perform. The FBOP provides civilian inmate labor free of charge to the Army.

[Demosthenes]

18 USCS § 4125

§ 4125. Public works; prison camps

(a) The Attorney General may make available to the heads of the several departments the services of United States prisoners under terms, conditions, and rates mutually agreed upon, for constructing or repairing roads, clearing, maintaining and reforesting public lands, building levees, and constructing or repairing any other public ways or works financed wholly or in major part by funds appropriated by Congress.

(b) The Attorney General may establish, equip, and maintain camps upon sites selected by him elsewhere than upon Indian reservations, and designate such camps as places for confinement of persons convicted of an offense against the laws of the United States.

(c) The expenses of transferring and maintaining prisoners at such camps and of operating such camps shall be paid from the appropriation "Support of United States prisoners", which may, in the discretion of the Attorney General, be reimbursed for such expenses.

(d) As part of the expense of operating such camps the Attorney General is authorized to provide for the payment to the inmates or their dependents such pecuniary earnings as he may deem proper, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe.

(e) All other laws of the United States relating to the imprisonment, transfer, control, discipline, escape, release of, or in any way affecting prisoners, shall apply to prisoners transferred to such camps.


History:

(June 25, 1948, ch 645, § 1, 62 Stat. 852.)

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

If your research indicates where Bill Hefner, the signer of the cover letter is to be located, I will fax my request there like I intended earlier today. I want him to send the documentation "in print" (in 1997) or cite it so I can look in the Federal Repository for the same.

Perhaps...

Willie Gathrel Hefner (d/o/b 4/11/30)
Democrat
U.S. Congressman [North Carolina] (1975-1999).

"Born in Elora, Tennessee, Hefner graduated from high school in Sardis, Alabama. He attended in the University of Alabama and was a became the president and owner of radio station WRKB in Kannapolis, North Carolina. He was a member of the Harvesters Quartet, a group of gospel music singers based in North Carolina, from 1954 to 1967 and a television performer on numerous North Carolina TV channels.

In 1974, he was elected as a Democrat to the 94th United States Congress; he served a total of 12 terms, from January 3, 1975 to January 3, 1999, before retiring form Congress.

Hefner built a reputation as an advocate for military veterans, and the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Salisbury, N.C., was renamed in his honor in 1999."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...000/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hefner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...North_Carolina

Willie Gathrel Hefner (b. 1930) — also known as W. G. 'Bill' Hefner — of Concord, Cabarrus County, N.C. Born in Elora, Lincoln County, Tenn., April 11, 1930. Democrat. Owner and president, radio station WRKB, Kannapolis, N.C.; Gospel music singer with Harvester's Quartet, 1954-67; television performer; U.S. Representative from North Carolina 8th District, 1975-99. Baptist. Still living as of 1999.

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts...?index=H000448

REP. BILL HEFNER (D-NC)

On March 9, 1992, Rep. Hefner purchased between 15,000 and 50,000 dollars worth of stock in Philip Morris. He later sold this stock on February 24, 1993 for a reported capital gains between $1,000 and $2,500.

Rep. Hefner's stock purchase coincides with two pieces of legislation that would concern tobacco companies.

The first bill was H.R. 5487: AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT, FDA APPROPRIATIONS ACT. The Appropriations Committee (on which Rep. Hefner sits) began their work on H.R. 5487 on March 17, 1992. On June 30, 1992, the House approved an amendment that provides no appropriated funds be used to pay the salaries of personnel who carry out a Market Promotion Program with respect to tobacco subsidies. Rep. Hefner voted NAY on this particular amendment (Roll No. 249).

The second bill was H.R. 4600: TO ELIMINATE THE TOBACCO PRICE SUPPORT PROGRAM (Introduced March 26, 1992; Referred to House Agriculture; Not enacted).

POLITICAL MONEY NOTES: Since 1989, Rep. Hefner has accepted at least $7,500 in campaign contributions from Philip Morris' PAC.

NOTES: Rep. Hefner is a high ranking member of the House Appropriations Committee.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/spec...ll_hefner.html

Ok. Ok All this about camps is one thing but get back to how they will deal with more and more Americans not having SS#s not to mention the foreigners.