New Gen No SS#

[Demosthenes]

I think you need to revise the number.

It's not my number. You don't like it, take it up with the SSA.

But what about my original question. On what do you base your assumption that more and more Americans don't have SSNs?

[RickA]

Ok. Ok All this about camps is one thing but get back to [B}how they will deal with more and more Americans not having SS#s not to mention the foreigners.[/b]

But what about my original question. On what do you base your assumption that more and more Americans don't have SSNs?

It is not my intent to speak for Dr. Zapola, but I don't see a statement that more and more Americans don't have SSNs. I see a question based on what would happen if more and more Americans don't have SSNs.

I believe it was said in an earlier post, David I think. Why would anyone care? Those who have/use it would tend to those matters, those who do not would tend to their matters.....I think.

Correct Rick. This is my question to the system supporters. I wanted to hear their comments and others about what they think about Americans not applying for a SS#. I know of many who do not because of religious convictions. Would the system come after them and can it compel them to participate in the confiscator taking system?

But Demo gave a very follow the law type answer.

{If a youngster isn't going to be taken as a deduction on a parent's tax return, I see no reason to apply for a number. I applied for a number when I got my first job at the age of 14.}

I still ask (a) "Would you advise the youngster not to get a SS#? Would you promote SS# abstention?" Or (b) Are you a supporter of the taking system?

[Big Al]

Get familiar with how the government sues businesses for not hiring people who don't supply SSN#. Tell them to never, ever file a 1040. This was the issue that got me to stop filing in 1987 because I refused to number the Children of Israel(my own two small children).

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Big Al

Get familiar with how the government sues businesses for not hiring people who don't supply SSN#. Tell them to never, ever file a 1040. This was the issue that got me to stop filing in 1987 because I refused to number the Children of Israel(my own two small children).

The Taco Bell applications still say "voluntary" in that box. But the manager said she would just throw out any applications without a SSN.



Regards,

David Merrill.

The Corporation is a creation of the government’s and as a condition they agree to support and operate by the government’s laws (not the peoples "Constitution"). Of course now the other lemmings just do the same.
Yet this is another tactic the system uses to enslave us.

Would the system come after them and can it compel them to participate in the confiscator taking system?

Say you owned a family business and your children are grown, they each work in the family business. By law they don’t have to get a SS# or an IT# and they don't. Do they have to file? Do they have to report? Will the system come after them for not supporting the welfare state?

[David Merrill]

That is what I was saying about REDCLOUD being an agent on another thread. Once you start filing you build a constructive trust where that legal name is basically the collection agent on the voluntary compliance premise that the Taxpayer does the original good faith tax liability assessment. REDCLOUD was saying your wife should just file a Return reporting zero income for herself. Even without a tax liability she would accrue a liability to continue filing in future years.

Of course by just Refusing for Cause the letter that invites trouble but the world is full of that anyway. If you and your wife were not up for what is right in what you call the taking system, you would have assigned the system's number to your children (like King David was chastized for by the way) and you would not be looking for advisement here. You would simply call up the HELP line of the IRS and get your advice.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[Big Al]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

The Taco Bell applications still say "voluntary" in that box. But the manager said she would just throw out any applications without a SSN.



Regards,

David Merrill.

Get it in writing, I went through this with my own two children in 1994. I called Foremost Mckesson in Ca. And they told me they would acomadate my children. This does bring back fond memories, she learned real quick that this was not an accommodation. If you are going to do this it's best to pull a slickee on em. Get all your home work done ahead, so when you take your evidence to the EEOC it will be easy for them. ENJOY!!!

[Demosthenes]

The Amish don't use an SSN, but pay income taxes every year. The IRS simply assigns a temporary ID number each year.

The number is much ado about nothing. It's like focusing on killing a fly, when 10,000 ants are already marching into your house.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Demosthenes

The Amish don't use an SSN, but pay income taxes every year. The IRS simply assigns a temporary ID number each year.

The number is much ado about nothing. It's like focusing on killing a fly, when 10,000 ants are already marching into your house.

The Amish are their own SS system.